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6899 · Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: K1100LT Clutch Slave & Spline

Gang,

I am in the middle of a tear down of my 1996 K1100LT - it has 73K. Bought it used at 61K.

4 Questions:
1) How do you know if the Slave is leaking without taking Tranny out?
2) My rear Brake Master was almost gone with Brake Fluid
3) What is the avg life of the K1100 Clutch. My seems to work OK
4) Is it necessary to remove the ABS?

I see a lot of threads for K75 but my K1100LT has more shit on it..

Martin
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Phil Marvin · Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: K1100LT Clutch Slave & Spline

2xcelr8 · Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:13 am Post subject: ABS II

If you are doing the splines or pulling the tranny, I found it easiest to disconnect the brake lines so it can be moved far enough to be out of the way. The wires can stay connected. I zip tied the unit to the top frame rails.

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6899 · Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: K1100LT Clutch Slave & Spline

Thanks for the info.

I assumed the bike had a hydralic slave - and thought maybe the fluid came from the rear brake reservoir. DUH!

Initially I thought that if I had to dig too deep, may as well replace the clutch -- but I'll leave the bike alone. I do have a small 1-2 drops leak from under the engine / tranny weep hole. After I pull the tranny I'll have to make a judgement if any seals need replacing.

I like the idea of disconnecting the ABS and capping the brake lines - but do you have trouble bleeding the brake lines when you reconnect them? Seems everybody complains about the ABS and tries to move it around with the brake lines intact.

Martin
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mtnroads

[quote="6899

I like the idea of disconnecting the ABS and capping the brake lines - but do you have trouble bleeding the brake lines when you reconnect them? Seems everybody complains about the ABS and tries to move it around with the brake lines intact.

Martin[/quote]

Personally I like ABS - it can be a lifesaver in the rainy weather we're experiencing here in the west. The 1996 K-LT has ABS II which is pretty responsive - not sure why you would disconnect it unless you're having issues with the servo or controller.
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:15 am Post subject:

You have to tear a bike apart 12k miles after buying it? Shocked

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SugarHillCTD · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:06 am Post subject:

6899 · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject:

Hey guys,

I read the msg to move the ABS out of the way (tie to frame) but to attach it to the frame wouldn't you have to temporarily remove the brake lines??

I plan to do some serious riding this year so since I bought the K from a 3rd owner, I have no idea what any maintenance was performed on it. I did see in the 1st owners manual all the maintenance checks up to about 25K, then nothing recorded from 25K to 61K. I bought the Hot Jalepeno at 61K and only did routine maintenance.

Thanks,

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1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold

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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject:

I think you could do it by slightly bending the brake lines but of course there's a slight risk of breaking them involved but it's up to you.

My only experience is that I did it to a parts bike as I was taking it apart just to see if it's possible. I THINK it is.
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Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject:

Ernie-NH · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject:

Good evening "6899:....

Say.... do you think you could shrink your avatar just a tad ? I cant get your messages on my screen !

If so..... THANKS !!

Best regards..............// Ernie-NH
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Jim · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject:

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject:

Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject:

+2
Or perhaps use a K engine, it's narrower & a lot less agricultural Twisted Evil

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2xcelr8 · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: ABS II Wire Disconnect

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject:

Doug, to get the cover off, ther is a small embossed spot about 1/2-3/4" inch down from the top in the middle that you have to punch out with a small nail.
Then once you have that open either use the nail or a small jeweler's tip screw driver. Insert the driver or nail straight in with a little tension then tilt upward as the cover slides up. There will be a little snap when it comes loose.
You can't get the cover off with out opening up that release or you will break the cover/latch and it won't fit back on.
When you go back together cover that small hole with some good tape or a dab of silicone to seal it back up.
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kstones · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: ABS/Clutch etc

Well you learn something perhaps not every day; where were you last year when i had the ABS hung up on string doing obstetrics on the bike!! Had a quick run out this morning; the K11 is just adrenaline to me; i'm just blind to getting something else for fun riding. The K12 is better for passenger duty but only for the good weather ( it's all relative in the NE of England).
Keep it coming guys.
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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Re: ABS/Clutch etc

2xcelr8 · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject:

6899 · Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject:

Gang,

The tranny came out today with my son and friend helping. I found that the tranny spline was well lubricated but a lot of oil in the bottom if the bell housing so I definitely have to replace the clutch O ring and may as well do the engine rear seal. Sad

Tomorrow its the clutch and then tally up all parts to order. Wink

What a pain to get this far but I do feel better having navigated it. Evil or Very Mad

The driveshafts were also lubed and I noticed that the original grease was yellow / red and the new grease was grey. Razz

I had trouble getting the starter out so I just unbolted it and the tranny came out anyway. I took a lot of pics and will post once I'm done. Had some surprizes along the way like the right hand top frame bolt to the tranny was finger tight! WTF!!! Rolling Eyes

Overall the bike was in good condtion for 73K but needs some new rubber seals. Wink

Martin
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1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold

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Indy BMW Club since 1975