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BobZ(IL) · Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Spline Lube Tomorrow...

Anyone have link to good spline lube instructions on the web? IBMWR has some but seem a little iffy. (RS verses LT)

I noticed a little oil seepage between bottom of engine and trans. No clutch issues so far. Seal issue?

Actually had hoped to just slide trans back a little rather than pulling it out. Probably out of luck.

Thanks for suggestions.
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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject:

If you're doing the first "re-lube" since production I'd suggest that you pull the tranny all the way off.
Reason being, you need to get in there and clean the old "stuff" out from the clutch disc splines as well as the tranny shaft splines.
I used an old tooth brush with some degreaser.

I'd also suggest that you drain all the tranny oil out of it before you try and remove it, otherwise you'll probably be cleaning it off the floor before your done.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:00 am Post subject:

Drain the final drive and tranny. That way you can put the final drive on it's side and it won't leak gear oil out of the breather cap. Don't drain the tranny until you have the center stand off. Otherwise it drains down the centerstand and makes a mess.

Put the drive shaft back together with the U-joints lined-up like so:

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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:04 am Post subject:

You don't need to remove the starter, just take out it's two mounting bolts and leave it in place.
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rkildu · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

Bob,

Send me an eMail address and I will forward a Word Doc to you that I wrote up after doing mine.

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BobZ(IL) · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject:

WVMSFKRS · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject:

I'm in the middle of mine. I though it was a pretty big job, the trickiest part was getting it back together by myself. I wish I lived close to you and your mechanic colleague. Did you happen to take any pictures?
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BobZ(IL) · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject:

We took a couple of pictures of areas we thought might confuse our reassembly, but were so driven to get the job completed today and enjoy the Guiness rewards that we didn't do the documentation.

There are nuts and bolts and pieces so fricken hard to get to that it's no wonder dealer service is so expensive and often times unreliable. And I have ABS l, not ll.

Can't imagine doing the job without a helper or two.
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WVMSFKRS · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:04 am Post subject:

4 nuts that hold down the battery tray, 2 are under the ABS II and very hard to get out. It's been apart so long I hope I can get the body back together. I have quite a few things going on with the RS.
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AndrewD · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:59 am Post subject:

I know your lube is done, but thought I'd add my 2p worth as it's a common question that will get searched for.

Did a spline lube and clutch seal the other day in a couple of hours with Rob C on the Redsoket forum.

We pulled the whole arm out in one, but split it the replace, so I'd split to remove (no need to drain bevel oil). We have had a few issues with the wrong seal being supplied by a popular parts provider, therefore this is the forth time it has been apart. Evil or Very Mad

The seal (when correct) should sit with the last face/fold flat not stretched out with the clutch adjustment bolt about 1" out.

If the clutch cable is wrong or stretched (Rob has a K1 so cable might be a little long if an RS one had been used at some time). The arm ends up a long way out with the adjustment bolt about 3/8" out, this places strain on the seal and it fails very quickly.

At the same time as a lube check both UJ's are free as they 'weld' as they fail preventing easy repair.
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kengibson · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:43 am Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject:

WVMSFKRS · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject:

Looks familiar, mine is getting close to being back together. A few of my riding friends said we're riding some time in the next 2 weeks, so I better get busy.
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Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject:

Aint that pretty, A flying brick, sitting on a hollow brick.

Seriously, what stops it falling off, should the worst happen?
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject:

They're actually pretty well-balanced like that. When I rebuilt my K75S I started with a motor on a few blocks of wood and went from there.
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86 custom K100
14 WR250R
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Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject:

When I did mine, I bolted a 4" x 2" to the garage floor with J hooks each end & ratchet strapped it to the bottom yoke. front wheel was butted against the wood. Under the sump (oil pan) was a hydraulic jack. This allowed me to make sure the engine & tranny were in line, when I rolled the tranny forwards. Just for safety I also did this

But then i knew that SWMBO would want to get past to get to the freezer. She's not got the most delicate of asses Laughing

We don't have as much real estate this side of the pond for serious workshops either.
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chopper_harris · Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject:

And I'll bet my life she doesn't get to read your forum posts Wink

You are soooo in trouble when she does !
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