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Saltcreek Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 957 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: If you think you have one gallon of gas and 50 miles to the |
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next gas station, what speed and rpm would you hold?
Also, anyone know how much vertical play is acceptable in the sidestand and is it adjustable?
I know I'm new here but is anyone else a little scared of the guy with the cowbell? _________________ Jim
1994 K1100LT Mystic Red, bfd, 37000 miles, sold
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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1. Keep it under 60, and the RPMs low but not lugging. Biggest problem is starting off the fuel sloshes to the back of the tank which bogs the bike down.
2. Mine has an inch or 2 of play...the sidestands are generally considered subpar on these bikes...they need another 2-3" of elevation to work right. I rarely use mine.
3. Be afraid, be very afraid.  _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
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owrstrich Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 2566 Location: CheezConsin
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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the rs...
i still have not figured out how much gas my tank holds or how many miles i can go on a tank...
but i can tell you i get 40 mpg 2 up aggressively attacking the mountain roads... if i had it full to begin with my fuel light comes on at 140 miles...
i have ridden 160 miles between fuel stops and there was very little fuel in the tank...
the l t in the possession of scott underscore anderson...
my fuel light would come on at 180 miles 1 up flatlanding... i rode that thing 200 miles between fuel stops... dont recall the mileage...
that l t was one tight motobrick... where as my r s is a loose motoheap...
crazy aint it...
j o _________________ yeeeeeehaaaaaaa... |
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Saltcreek Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 957 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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2. Mine has an inch or 2 of play...the sidestands are generally considered subpar on these bikes...they need another 2-3" of elevation to work right. I rarely use mine.
3. Be afraid, be very afraid. [/quote]
I'm still having a little trouble getting the ergonomics of the centerstand elevation. I think it's largely having the confidence to stand on it without worrying about laying the bike down. No I haven't done that.
Jim _________________ Jim
1994 K1100LT Mystic Red, bfd, 37000 miles, sold
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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All K bikes lean far on the sidestand like that - back to the very first K100.
I don't have much wiggle room in my garage - I use a 3/4" baord under the sidestand.
Putting the bike onthe centerstand:
Put it in neutral. (Keeps the rear wheel from grabbing initially.)
Straighten the handlebars.
Grab the handle and left grip. Lean the bike while pusing down on the centerstand until your feel the right foot of the centerstand touch down. Push down hard with your foot while lifting the handle. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
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Saltcreek Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 957 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: |
Putting the bike onthe centerstand:
Put it in neutral. (Keeps the rear wheel from grabbing initially.)
Straighten the handlebars.
Grab the handle and left grip. Lean the bike while pusing down on the centerstand until your feel the right foot of the centerstand touch down. Push down hard with your foot while lifting the handle. |
Good advise. I think the critical element is to make sure the right side isn't hovering when you stand on the left.
Jim _________________ Jim
1994 K1100LT Mystic Red, bfd, 37000 miles, sold
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the key is making the handlebars are straight.
I put down the stand "feeling" that both legs are on the ground and put my whole weight on the center stand while guiding it with the rear rack.
The only time I use the lever is on an incline. _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
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K11Martin Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 123 Location: North Notts, UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | Push down hard with your foot while lifting the handle. |
Be careful not to tug on the left handlebar too much while doing this as it causes premature failure of the left hand grip heater. With practice, the left hand becomes more of a steadying influence rather than actually exerting pressure on the bar.
As for the sidestand, it can be improved, but as soon as you increase the preload on the rear shock to carry extra weight (or for stiffer suspension), the lean angle will increase again.
It's a losing battle
The fork in the sidestand leg of my bike had become 'spread apart' somewhat, causing a greater lean angle than desired, so to remove the play, I used an angle grinder to take off some metal from the inside of the fork. This had the effect of truing it up, but in the process it had of course made the whole gap slightly wider, necessitating the use of a thin ‘packing washer’ to enable it to fit snugly back together. It has made a significant difference to the lean angle, and will suffice as a repair for the next few years, I’m sure. _________________
Currently riding a '93 K1100LT (ABS1) decked out with lights and aerials (Ex 70's Vespa rider)
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Off the grid wrote: | Yeah the key is making the handlebars are straight.
I put down the stand "feeling" that both legs are on the ground and put my whole weight on the center stand while guiding it with the rear rack.
The only time I use the lever is on an incline. |
Luggage racks are plastic and will break. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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fnord Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Colebrook, CT
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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What I would do (ok, what I *did*) was practice it 5 or 6 times in my garage on a nice, level floor.
You can do 99% of the lifting with the downward pressure of your foot. You really don't have to do much with your hands at all. When you step down, feel for whether or not both sides of the stand are touching the ground, once they are, mentally count to 3, and step down hard.
You may not get it on the first try, but after a couple, you'll nail it every time.
Also, I've been told not to ever use the sidestand (although I still do at the gas pump) because of the way oil settles in the bricks. |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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I leave mine on the sidestand all the time. The early two valve Ks had softer rings and would let GOBS of oil by. The redid the rings in 88 so it wasn't as much of an issue forthe two valves but id left sitting for an extended period they could still do some mosquito.
I left my RS on the sixdestand in the garage for about a month once. It put out a little oil smoke on starting but not too bad. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I leave mine on the sidestand a lot of the time - who cares if it smokes a little when you start it? Go a block or two and it's done... I thought the oil was getting back in past the valves, not the rings...
Centerstand is no big deal once you figure it out - just grab the handle and step down hard on the centerstand - I usually hold the clutch in rather than leave it in neutral. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
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Ms.Bug
Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | Putting the bike onthe centerstand:
Put it in neutral. (Keeps the rear wheel from grabbing initially.)
Straighten the handlebars.
Grab the handle and left grip. Lean the bike while pusing down on the centerstand until your feel the right foot of the centerstand touch down. Push down hard with your foot while lifting the handle. |
Scott_Anderson will be picking up our new RS Motobrick next weekend- he has never put a RS up on it's center stand, concerned he won't know what to do without a handle... Do you think you could write him a tutorial Duck? |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| Ms.Bug wrote: | | Do you think you could write him a tutorial Duck? |
Funny bend in frame.
Done. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3122 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ms.Bug wrote: |
Scott_Anderson will be picking up our new RS Motobrick next weekend- he has never put a RS up on it's center stand, concerned he won't know what to do without a handle... Do you think you could write him a tutorial Duck? |
Don't worry there Ms Bug. I used to have a Yamheap that had a center stand and no handle. Just grabed the frame, and up she went.
Don't read anything else into that either.  _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
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mike toon Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank CA
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| K11Martin wrote: | | ... necessitating the use of a thin ‘packing washer’ to enable it to fit snugly back together... | I too used a thin washer to shim the gap. It helped somewhat. _________________ Current Bikes
1993 K1100LT
1976 GL1000 Naked
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Off the grid wrote: | Yeah the key is making the handlebars are straight.
I put down the stand "feeling" that both legs are on the ground and put my whole weight on the center stand while guiding it with the rear rack.
The only time I use the lever is on an incline. |
OTG,
I agree with your centerstand technique, but use my right hand on the handle under the left side of the saddle.
IMHO, the sidestand is a P.O.S. After I "deleted" the sidestand switch, I actually contemplated removing the sidestand completely. If at all possible I always use the centerstand- but every once in a while I have to park Hades on a slight side incline or on a very soft surface and I sort-of trust the sidestand.
Ms. Bug- Lots of Luck!! (handle? we don't need no stinkin' handle)
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mnb Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 660 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| SugarHillCTD wrote: | | IMHO, the sidestand is a P.O.S. |
I agree 100%. The K1100 is the only bike I've ever owned that has had a kickstand fold up on me and dump the bike. And it's done it twice.
When I got my new F800GS, I was impressed with the beefy kickstand. I thought, wow BMW finally learned how to design a kickstand! So guess what the first part on the bike to fail was? The kick stand is bent, causing severe lean issues. No idea how it happened. Just normal use. New one on order... _________________ M N B
1997 BMW K1100LT ABS Special Edition
2003 Husqvarna TE610e
2007 Harley Davidson Road King
2009 BMW F800GS
2011 Husqvarna TE310
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| mnb wrote: | | SugarHillCTD wrote: | | IMHO, the sidestand is a P.O.S. |
I agree 100%. The K1100 is the only bike I've ever owned that has had a kickstand fold up on me and dump the bike. And it's done it twice.
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That's happened to me a couple of times too. Now I always give the side stand a good kick forward before leaning the bike over.
Only use the centre stand for periods away or to work on it or wash it - neither of which occurs often
Unfortunately where I park at work it's either cobbles (not fun to balance onto the centre stand) or an incline; impossible to 'roll' it off the centre stand while on the bike and I haven't got the confidence yet to push it off from the side. _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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