K11 Owners Group

[adoria]

i replaced the needle bearing on the interior side (e.i. right side) of the rear axle. however, i cannot get the rear axle to align properly with the rear fork holes when reassembling the final drive (lubed it with honda 60 moly since i was in there of course). i am able to get one of the holes aligned and one bolt in one side (does not matter which side). BUT i cannot get the other side to align for installing its bolt and thus having both bolts installed. i have pulled the final drive and found nothing i saw wrong. i used a rubber hammer to tap the final drive snug. has anyone had this issue or have suggestions/solution/help?

here is a photo of the best i could do on the exterior (e.i. right side of rear fork) with the interior (e.i. left side of rear fork) bolt installed. not good enough.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxgvyhcd6nemc5g/2013-03-18%2022.10.47.jpg
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[Scott_Anderson]

How much did you remove.
When you had the final drive out did you dis-assemble or remove any of the drive shaft, front or rear half.
Both parts of the drive shaft are held onto the respective input/output shafts with a circlip.
It almost sounds/looks like one of the drive shaft halves is not seated on the respective circlip far enough.

Take the FD off again and see if either part of the drive shaft can be removed easily. If so then either the circlip is broken(not likely) or the respective part was not seated properly.

Something else to check is how clean are the intermediate splines of the drive shaft. Is there anything in the female part of the front shaft that may be blocking or restricting the parts from mating.
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[adoria]

hi scott,
thank you for the info.

i removed everything on the final drive (i was putting in a new clutch, rear main seal and front tranny seal). all three splines of the final drive were accessed and lubed. i tried to clean the male splines as best possible, but i was not aware of the circlips AND it's possible that something got inside the female spline that needs to be removed or cleaned.

i dont recall seeing any circlips. maybe they are in there somewhere or missing/broken???

i just got off work and am back in the garage. i'll begin pulling the final drive apart.
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[Inge K.]

If you have splitted the driveshaft between the u-joints, be shure that the joints is phased
when reassembling the shaft.
The u-joint fork(s) at each end of the middle section should be in line.

Inge K.

[adoria]

yes, i did have the shafts aligned properly. thanks for the suggestion though inge. im pulling the rear fork of now. report back after. where should these circlips be?
do they automatically clip in when i put the shaft back on and seat it with my rubber hammer's light tapping motion?
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[Inge K.]

The circlips is inside the u-joint forks furthest away from the middle section, both ends.
When they are properly seated, you can't move the u-joint(s) along the stub shaft...in either direction.

Inge K.

[adoria]

final drive has been removed. i cannot find any circlips. here are some photos of the final drive and splines. does anyone see anything wrong?

transmission output spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/025v1rfaelkshav/2013-03-19%2017.02.47.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/617adn082fgcwzc/2013-03-19%2017.03.06.jpg

final drive:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2yam7z9rwxezw1n/2013-03-19%2017.03.25.jpg
----front drive shaft (front) U-link spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0svnp9c32v05fpi/2013-03-19%2017.03.44.jpg
----front drive shaft (rear) spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gphmq0tgsk8n87r/2013-03-19%2017.04.00.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fv1ujko5ta324uw/2013-03-19%2017.04.09.jpg
---rear drive shaft (front) spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuabje0fp3l8qp6/2013-03-19%2017.04.22.jpg
---rear drive shaft (rear) U-link spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3bap05nkesug1y/2013-03-19%2017.16.03.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jlxn8itnceql70/2013-03-19%2017.16.25.jpg
---rear axle/drive spline:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hmh3tccoif3o0gg/2013-03-19%2017.04.42.jpg

AND does anyone have tips on how to get the rear fork rubber boot back onto the transmission efficiently/easily?
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[adoria]

i see the circlips. thanks for the location, inge. they look seated properly on both ends U-links. you can see them on the back side of the splines.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/omwp3romencl44i/2013-03-19%2017.26.16.jpg

hmmm. im puzzled now. it seems like everything was seated properly. maybe i need to tap the drive shaft firmer when seating it with my rubber hammer.

anyone else have ideas?
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[Inge K.]

At the gearbox output and the FD input stub shaft you see the groove which the circlips
should grip......and then when they are properly seated in these grooves, the only movement
along the driveshaft you then would have at the splines at the middle section.

Inge K.

[adoria]

victory! got them in. thank you for the help. it was very useful.
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-andre
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1995 BMW K1100LT

2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
2002 Honda Shadow 750 A.C.E.
1983 Honda Sabre 750 V-4

[Inge K.]

Be shure that the circlips is properly seated at both ends, many have not been paying
enough attention to this.....and only seated the frontmost circlip properly....
the final result is damaged splines at the FD end.

Inge K.