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dibdob69
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject: What Engine Oil in UK ? Reply with quote

What engine oil are you chaps using in the UK ? Is there something i can get from Halfords or a local Motor discount centre as these bikes have a dry clutch ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: What Engine Oil in UK ? Reply with quote

dibdob69 wrote:
What engine oil are you chaps using in the UK ? Is there something i can get from Halfords or a local Motor discount centre as these bikes have a dry clutch ?

I've been using Halfrauds synthetic 15W50 (as I recall) since I got the bike in 2006. It seems fine, but I bet anything slippery and of roughly the right weight will work for a few hundred thousand miles as long as the engine doesn't sludge up or run dry.

I knew a guy with a Datsun (before it was Nissan) car that went 185,000 miles before a transmission shaft worked loose and stopped forward progress for good. I once asked him how often he changed the oil and what he used. He said he didn't know it was supposed to be changed - he just checked it once in a while and topped up if needed.

Not that I'm recommending such neglect, of course.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any good quality 10w/40 will do, I normally use what i can buy in bulk [25ltrs] as i change it every 6 months. A semi- synthetic is good Morris lubricants do a 25ltr drum for £106 free delivery which will do you at least 5 changes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I got Mobil 1 semi synth which was on offer at Halfauds. 10/40 I seem to remember.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shell 10/40 mineral from local garage, one of the few decent brands they had and reasonable price.
AS you don't have to worry about the clutch any bike or car 10/40 will do and be the ideal weight oil for uk use.
Don't unnecessarily buy synth unless it's cheap, mineral or semi synth will be fine
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually use Halfords Semi synth 15/40 (Purple can) About £19.00
3 K11's totalling about 60,000 miles. Seems a good enough test.

Not wishing to start an Oil debate again, I use Semi Synth coz that's what the bike was designed to use.


Edited 3/12/2011 Changed 10/40 to 15/40 & price to 19.00
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The brick is a car engine, so I use Halfords 10/40 semi synthetic in the green bottle
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castrol GTX 10/40
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elf 20/50 mineral, doesn't need topping up between 5K km changes.
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merlin geikie
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down here in downunder we use a 20/50 oil for the higher ambient temps.

It is a car engine and has flat cams that need a bit of ZDDP in the oil to keep it all slippery at the cam lobe.

The Zinc levels are ideal at aroung 1200 ppm and will not poison your catalytic converter at this concentration and of course will not affect your dry clutch either.

The main thing is a quality oil and the engine is really a re jigged Citroen from the 70s era, brought to the K series in 1983.

So it is a bit of an old school motor and many say don't use synth oils in it as this is asking for rear main bearing seal leaks.

As long as you change the quality oil and filter regularly all should be fine.

Oh yeah, the motor takes about 25 miles to reach proper operating temps so that the water in the oil from startups can evaporate and reduce the harsh acid environment in the oil.

So longish trips are the go.

All the very best from downunder Oz, where it is warm and sunny for now Wink Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!

To stop one for all the gossips about Citroen origins of K engines READ IT!! - The Manson Essay

And to help with oil grade - a photo from original user manual:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, Valvoline VR1 20W-50 mineral oil in my bike.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another OIL issues... ooohhh goody. to my friends over the pond .. cheers
you need to match the oil to the driving conditions. temps being the most important. if you can stay away from the 10w-XX stuff. its the way the oil is manufactured. since these units really are mini car set ups you can treat them as such. in the Mid Altantic region of Washington D.C. we use 20w-50 in the warm months. when the cold temps hit 30 F or lower we switch out the oil to a 5w-30/40 or even the new 0w-50 mobile1. we only use synthetic amsoil or the mobile1. we ride are bikes almost year around weather premitting.
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Phil Marvin
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, All,
I live in El Paso, Texas and here we can ride year 'round. It gets hot in the summer - over 40C/104F and chilly in the winter - last year it hit -17C/0F once. "We" have never changed to 5wXX or 10wXX in the winter. When using conventional oil, "we" use 20w50 and when using Mobil 1 synthetic, 15w50. "We" do ride when the temperature is around 0C/32F or slightly lower, at least "we" did in the past, before the current health problems occurred. In those temperatures, I prefer riding my K75RTP with electric vest, chaps and gloves instead of my K75A/3 which only has a windshield.
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