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tmoons · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 161

just a question to you other RAM lead users,
could you also post pictures of the routing of the cables?
I will put mine on tonight

Beachcomber · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:45 am Post subject:

Theo,

I sent three sets of OEM leads off to the manufacturers for evaluation - they had results very similar to your own with all 3 sets - all over the place! Rolling Eyes

They also had 3 sets of coils to test, so the leads weren't tested in isolation.

He also tested 2 other aftermarket sets - we'll keep those results private. Wink

The manufacturer was very specific about keeping the leads seperated - hence the little plastic seperator. Several owners told me [ during the development stages ] that MOST plugs came without the screw on nipples and it's an absolute pain to get them in some areas. So, I asked the manufacturer to include them.

I also quizzed him on lengths and his response was that in the real World this made so little difference as to be insignificant.

What HAS been apparant is that ALL the OEM leads tested [ K75/100/1100 ] have all had at least one lead per set that was faulty.

I guess leads are one of those fit and forget items when it comes to maintainance. Rolling Eyes

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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:20 am Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:21 am Post subject:

Beachcomber · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:12 am Post subject:

As to the "secrecy" - the manufacturers only tested 1 set from each manufacturer - NOT sufficient to form an informed opinion. As an engineer - I do not rely on one test for anything, and don't expect others to either. Cool

I guess at 8mm. they are as well insulated as any aftermarket lead, however it's normal practice with hi-performance leads to keep them seperate.

Yes Scott - I arrived at this point because I suspected the leads on several of the bikes I got last year - a suspicion duly proved correct when the leads were tested ! At least 2 of the lead sets were badly chaffed on 2 leads where they had doubled back and were rubbing on the plug cover strip.

BTW - I fitted Magnecor leads to my Kay last year and found them to be fine. Laughing

Just that I couldn't get a "deal" with them, although they were very helpful - they were also quite long winded with their responses. Rolling Eyes

I'm happy wth what we've got now. Wink

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Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject:

tmoons · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 161

i finaly took some snap shots

please find them here and let me know what you think of the routing

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject:

Mine showed up today.

I like the fact that the new ones don't fold over like the old ones did.
I may have to get a 2nd set for the '97. Very Happy

Beach, tell AC, job well done.

Edit: update photo links
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tmoons · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 161

AH that is an interesting way, i think i will change mine to go like the yellow ones!

now have them sticking out the side...
first ride this morning (home to work) even managed to touch the 140 miles marker on the speedo....
runs good.

Beachcomber · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:13 am Post subject:

OK here goes - protocol checked - I have found the German Flying Brick club to be chilled and informative. I like the idea of communicating with my German cousins - as I do with my US counterparts.
www.flyingbrick.de.

There - ready to have wrist slapped. Duck, glad you understand - I even sent 3 sets of OEM leads for evaluation !

OK I posted on the FB site about the Yellow leads on Scott's bike. Super sano installation.

However the question I asked was - do we think a 3 wire seperator [ for cylinder #'s 1,2,3 ] at the junction of #4 would make a visually better installation - YES I know you only see it if the cover is off - maybe I'm getting too anal with this.

BTW - I hope you notice I had the manufacturers install the coil caps at 90 degrees to eliminate any "twist" in the wire ..... like I said - anal.

Word of caution - Uwe on the Flying Brick site has told me that his nipples came loose - ohh er missus [ !!!!].

Scott - can you get a 3 wire seperator in the US without any problems? If not, I'll send you one.

Now then where's that info on the K1200 leads?
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Beachcomber · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:14 am Post subject:

140 mph ...............................Theo you're a bad boy Twisted Evil

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Beachcomber · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:18 am Post subject:

Damn I'm getting senile Embarassed

- Scott, is it OK if I give your pix to Adrian for his "installation" instructions? You will be acredited,
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tmoons · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 161

Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject:

Beachcomber · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject:

I never accept a lift from you Theo !!!!!!!!!!!
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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject:

tmoons · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 161

Beachcomber · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject:

Scott,

I mentioned it to the manufacturer yesterday and this morning a set of 4,3 and 2 wire seperators arrived for approval !

He will now include ALL 3 in the kits. I'm going to try them out next week on my Fighter before I rip it apart for painting, detailing etc. - jeez Spring is here and I have no ride !!! Just for a laugh I'll fit the 10mm Hi-Po mothers on.

He was very impressed with your installation !
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject:

So Scott, any improvement in engine running? Smoother?

These are on my list, just need the funds to shake loose!
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject:

Funds shaken, ordered a set tonight, I estimate a total cost of $77.95 including shipping.

Looking forward to adding another RAM product to my bike!
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12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom