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Clutch arm bearing ??

 
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Tim (Midland Section)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Clutch arm bearing ?? Reply with quote

Just back from Germany, 2089 miles with the only failure a rear bulb. However, whilst riding without gloves in 30C heat, I noticed my clutch lever felt notchy, whether pulling in or letting it out. I checked the lever nipple for grease, OK.
With the bike stationary, I operated the lever while holding the release arm, I could feel the same jerkiness at both ends. This leads me to suspect the needle roller bearing in the arm. Cable (genuine BMW) was new last year.
Am I right ?
What else could it be?
Is it a bitch to do?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: grease Reply with quote

You did not grease that plastic liner on the pivot point of the clucth hand lever did you? It's suppossed to be a dry lube if anything at all.
I think it's the same stuff they use to line the cables and needs no lube. Grease will make it feel odd and notchy in operation.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it happens i've just done a complete clutch change along with rear main seal. While i had it all stripped down i pulled the arm out of the back of the gearbox as my clutch was a little stiff and changed the needle roller bearings. I also fitted a mod to the clutch arm which involves drilling, tapping and fitting a grease nipple. Motobins offer this as an exchange service for around £50-60 plus deposit or you can do it yourself if handy enough or even post it down to me and i'll do it for you. If you want me to do it send the bearings as well and i'll change them for you too as they are a sod to get out.
The end result was a very light clutch on a bike that will now pull from 40mph in top gear up to 80mph in a couple of seconds providing i can keep the front wheel down.
If you want me to do the mod for you it will take a couple of days turnaround as i only come back to this address every other day.
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Tim (Midland Section)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technician wrote:
While i had it all stripped down i pulled the arm out of the back of the gearbox as my clutch was a little stiff and changed the needle roller bearings. I also fitted a mod to the clutch arm which involves drilling, tapping and fitting a grease nipple. If you want me to do it send the bearings as well and I'll change them for you too as they are a sod to get out.
If you want me to do the mod for you it will take a couple of days turnaround as i only come back to this address every other day.


I assume from your reply that you agree with my diagnosis. Thanks for your kind offer. I fancy the hardest bit will be to remove the pin without knacking the lugs on the gearbox casting, dissimilar metals & acid rain! Is there a foolproof way to do this without taking too much off the bike?
I have yet to order the bearings & will be doing the nipple mod, when I can bear to be without my bike for a day or two. For now it's going to get spray grease & WD40 to help ease the pin till I'm ready.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a small blowtorch to heat the lugs on the gearbox as this is the part that the pin sits in without any movement. Once warmed up gently tap the pin to get it moving then work it back and forwards till you can pull it out.
To get the needle rollers out you will need the use of some carbide burrs as when you knock out the rollers [if you're lucky enough] you will leave the outer shell behind.
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