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SteveB007



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Synthetic in transmission Reply with quote

Hello all,
93 K11RS with 35k miles. Time for a transmission fluid change. I hear good things about synthetic, but others say that syn will cause seals to leak...What say ye?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put synthetic in my '97(tranny and final drive) at 32k and have had no problems with it.
Will also be putting it in my '95 probably this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old wives tale. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put it in mine and no problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Synthetic Transmission Oil Reply with quote

I've been using synthetic lube in various motorcycle gearboxes for years and have never had a leak problem. It does make them shift better.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With my 90,000 klm's now I have put synthetic oil in the 3 areas since 10,000 klm's.
I change them all once a year with the filter what ever the klm
The one before a K100rs went from 10,000 klm to my 135. The gear box was opened after 100,000 for a gear selector only.
I have Elf main engine oil & then Amsoil gear in others at present.
The best thing about it is if I'm going away you do not have to think do I have to change the oil before. You only HAVE to take some oil with you on long trips.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Transmission oil level Reply with quote

Seems I read somewhere that you can use a wrench to check the level of the transmission oil. The only "wrench" I can see in the tool kit is for adjusting the rear suspension spring. It has a line scribed across it near the bottom. Is this the tool to check the transmission oil level? There's nothing in the owners manual about checking the tranny oil level.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to my Haynes manual, that is the very tool for checking the tranny oil. Make sure it is clean and slide it donn thru the top filler (scribed end first) until it rests on the case at the bend. Pull it out and read on the scribe. Mine has a similar tool.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: trans fluid level Reply with quote

Don't forget to always check transmission, engine and rear drive fluids while ther machine is on the centerstand. If you check it while on the sidestand, you will get a false (low) reading.
I know this because a previous owner had overfilled the engine on the '95 LT that I own and blew the rear engine seal. It healed up on it's own, but the temporary leak contaminated my clutch disc.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: re: dipstick Reply with quote

Hanes could be wrong, the spring tool only goes in a little ways. Thus the tranny would be 3/4 or more full of oil.
I did find a sort of stamped "dipstick" about a quarter inch wide and is "L" shaped. The long end is about 4" long. It has a line near the bottom that says "MAX". This has to be the tool "dipstick" for checking the tranny oil level.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only the 2 valve K bikes had the tranny oil marking on the shock wrench. For the four valve Ks there is that separate L-shaped piece of metal for checking the tranny fluid level.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
Only the 2 valve K bikes had the tranny oil marking on the shock wrench. For the four valve Ks there is that separate L-shaped piece of metal for checking the tranny fluid level.


Thanks for the info. Was just about to do the trans fluid change.

Does Beachcomber know this? The Ram shock has the level mark on the supplied wrench. Didn't know that it doesn't work for my K-RS
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying to sort this out myself. I don't have a factory tool kit whith the "L" shaped tool, but my new RAM shock came with the spanner marked for the level. The problem is the spanner handle won't go in more than an inch or so, certainly not all the way down. So maybe this type of dipstick (spanner) simply won't work on the K11?

I was able to insert a long srewdriver down there and see where the oil is though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A K75/K100 dipstick works fine on a K11. I keep one in the garage for just that purpose.

Except for where the paralever rod mounts the transmission is the same as the earlier Ks.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Synthetic trans oil Reply with quote

I have used Mobile one synthetic gear lube in Honda's.
Comes in two weights, a 75/90 and a 75/140.
Don't know what's in the yellow brick now, but the tranny shifts perfect. Sometime you can't even feel the gear change with you toe. Shifting from neutral to first (at a stop) doesn't even make a sound and you can't feel a gear engage, the only way you can tell is, the gear indicator goes from "0" to "1". What lube are you folks using?
Also how are you checking the rear drive oil level?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The final drive level should be at the bottom of the threads when you remove the fill plug.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: oil level Reply with quote

Thanks Duck,
I kind of thought that it would be that.

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