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SteveB007
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Synthetic in transmission |
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Hello all,
93 K11RS with 35k miles. Time for a transmission fluid change. I hear good things about synthetic, but others say that syn will cause seals to leak...What say ye? _________________ Steve in Santa Fe
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3127 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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I put synthetic in my '97(tranny and final drive) at 32k and have had no problems with it.
Will also be putting it in my '95 probably this weekend. _________________ Ride safe.
1997 K1100LT 0302488
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2330 Location: Twin Lakes Idaho
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Old wives tale.  _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
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endoman100 Rider in the Sky

Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 338 Location: Hastings Fl.
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I just put it in mine and no problems. _________________ In the words of the stones
Time Is On My Side
Yes It Is
1993 K1100RS
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Rider Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 222 Location: La Grande, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: Synthetic Transmission Oil |
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I've been using synthetic lube in various motorcycle gearboxes for years and have never had a leak problem. It does make them shift better.
Ed _________________ 2007 650 Burgman, 2003 400 Burgman
Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you. |
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Turbine Brick Rider
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 46 Location: South Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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With my 90,000 klm's now I have put synthetic oil in the 3 areas since 10,000 klm's.
I change them all once a year with the filter what ever the klm
The one before a K100rs went from 10,000 klm to my 135. The gear box was opened after 100,000 for a gear selector only.
I have Elf main engine oil & then Amsoil gear in others at present.
The best thing about it is if I'm going away you do not have to think do I have to change the oil before. You only HAVE to take some oil with you on long trips. |
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larryb22 Big Brick Rider
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Buchanan Michigan
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: Transmission oil level |
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Seems I read somewhere that you can use a wrench to check the level of the transmission oil. The only "wrench" I can see in the tool kit is for adjusting the rear suspension spring. It has a line scribed across it near the bottom. Is this the tool to check the transmission oil level? There's nothing in the owners manual about checking the tranny oil level.
Thanks,
Larry _________________ 2008 Yamaha XV250
S/W Michigan USA |
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SteveB007
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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According to my Haynes manual, that is the very tool for checking the tranny oil. Make sure it is clean and slide it donn thru the top filler (scribed end first) until it rests on the case at the bend. Pull it out and read on the scribe. Mine has a similar tool. _________________ Steve in Santa Fe
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Don Sproule Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 261 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: trans fluid level |
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Don't forget to always check transmission, engine and rear drive fluids while ther machine is on the centerstand. If you check it while on the sidestand, you will get a false (low) reading.
I know this because a previous owner had overfilled the engine on the '95 LT that I own and blew the rear engine seal. It healed up on it's own, but the temporary leak contaminated my clutch disc.
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larryb22 Big Brick Rider
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Buchanan Michigan
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: re: dipstick |
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Hanes could be wrong, the spring tool only goes in a little ways. Thus the tranny would be 3/4 or more full of oil.
I did find a sort of stamped "dipstick" about a quarter inch wide and is "L" shaped. The long end is about 4" long. It has a line near the bottom that says "MAX". This has to be the tool "dipstick" for checking the tranny oil level.
Larry _________________ 2008 Yamaha XV250
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Only the 2 valve K bikes had the tranny oil marking on the shock wrench. For the four valve Ks there is that separate L-shaped piece of metal for checking the tranny fluid level. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | Only the 2 valve K bikes had the tranny oil marking on the shock wrench. For the four valve Ks there is that separate L-shaped piece of metal for checking the tranny fluid level. |
Thanks for the info. Was just about to do the trans fluid change.
Does Beachcomber know this? The Ram shock has the level mark on the supplied wrench. Didn't know that it doesn't work for my K-RS _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
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Stoked Steve Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've been trying to sort this out myself. I don't have a factory tool kit whith the "L" shaped tool, but my new RAM shock came with the spanner marked for the level. The problem is the spanner handle won't go in more than an inch or so, certainly not all the way down. So maybe this type of dipstick (spanner) simply won't work on the K11?
I was able to insert a long srewdriver down there and see where the oil is though. _________________ Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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A K75/K100 dipstick works fine on a K11. I keep one in the garage for just that purpose.
Except for where the paralever rod mounts the transmission is the same as the earlier Ks. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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larryb22 Big Brick Rider
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Buchanan Michigan
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: Synthetic trans oil |
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I have used Mobile one synthetic gear lube in Honda's.
Comes in two weights, a 75/90 and a 75/140.
Don't know what's in the yellow brick now, but the tranny shifts perfect. Sometime you can't even feel the gear change with you toe. Shifting from neutral to first (at a stop) doesn't even make a sound and you can't feel a gear engage, the only way you can tell is, the gear indicator goes from "0" to "1". What lube are you folks using?
Also how are you checking the rear drive oil level?
Larry _________________ 2008 Yamaha XV250
S/W Michigan USA |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: |
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The final drive level should be at the bottom of the threads when you remove the fill plug. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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larryb22 Big Brick Rider
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Buchanan Michigan
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: oil level |
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Thanks Duck,
I kind of thought that it would be that.
Larry _________________ 2008 Yamaha XV250
S/W Michigan USA |
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