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joeangi · Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Frame shims

When I took the tranny out, there was a 1 mm frame shim on the right frame attaching point. The left side had no shim(s) and when the bolt was removed had about a 3mm gap from the tranny. The frame was just "bent" in and the bolt tightened.

When I put the transmission back in, there is now no room for the right side shim? There is still a gap on the left side (2-3mm)

Should I loosen the whole frame, and then add shims as needed following the service manual?

A couple of photos of the "mess" Sorry some of the pics are out of focus.

owrstrich · Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject:

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BobZ(IL) · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:21 am Post subject:

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Jim · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:29 am Post subject:

Guess it gives a whole new meaning to "shit a brick"...

Anyway, we're not helping Joe very much with this thread drift.

Joe, I think you need to put it back together the way it was before you took it apart.
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SugarHillCTD · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:04 am Post subject:

I agree with Jim- I would put it back together just the way it came apart.

But HOLEE CH!T- you got a whole bunch of putting back together to do. Hope you have lots of pictures or a REALLY GOOD memory.

BTW, there is an easier way to do a spline lube (just kidding!)

Good luck and post more pictures as your beast comes back to life.

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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:23 am Post subject:

It's hard for me to tell but, it looks to me like you are working with the paralever arm?

+1, I agree too, put it back the way it was.
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joeangi · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:52 am Post subject:

OK, OK, I will start putting it back together....Body work is down at the body shop, I am doing all the body work.

I was thinking about it last night. I think I will loosen all the frame mounts and re-torque. Then I will shim the frame as needed.

Thanks for the input, yeah, I have lots of pictures.....

Joe

hockeyshifter · Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:

ok i have jet engine tear downs and i thought that looked scary.... please wake me

you are going to call this your little shop of dismantling.

hey your calling must of been a salvage operator Very Happy

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Off the grid · Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:01 am Post subject:

I really, really want to see this bike when it is put back together. Razz

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mike toon · Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject:

Has this bike been apart prior to your dismantle? If so, someone may have tightened every bolt as the went along, leaving a gap where the spacer was. All bolts should be in and the motor "hanging" normal before final tightening/torquing.
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gary1fr · Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 7 Location: Southwest France

This may be a silly question Embarassed

Why is there a 5/8" wrench in the 1st photo ?
All my BMW's have been metric is yours a little special ?

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Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

Interesting.

I've taken my share of K75s and K100s apart and done my share of spline lubes on those bikes. I've also pulled apart a parts K1100RS and done spline lubes on my LT. The only place I've ever seen a shim (every single bike BTW) is on the mount at the top of the bellhousing.
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joeangi · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject:

You noticed that wrench....so did I , I don't know how it got on my tool tray.

OTG just a quick shot of the painted rear drive.

Loosened all the engine mounts, as per the shop manual there is a 1 mm shim at the right front mount...then they get tightened in order, with the left front being the last to tighten, and shimmed as needed. It took a small (like 1/2- 1mm shim) washer. Close enough.....

Joe

Off the grid · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject:

WOW that looks amazing!
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Jim · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject:

owrstrich · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject:

need some kleenex there o t g...

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Off the grid · Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject:

Soon as the bike is back from the shop I am getting rid of it. Sad

The love affair is over.
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Rafal · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:46 am Post subject:

joeangi what kind of shock absorber do you have on your machine?

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joeangi · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:26 am Post subject:

It is a Koni....