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drmalacarne
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Oil Pressure Gauge. |
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A question.
Anyone have intalled a oil pressure gauge in his Brick?
Guilherme.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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what is oil... and why is it pressurized...
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| owrstrich wrote: | what is oil... and why is it pressurized...
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See what happens when you inhale too much motobrick exhaust?
Guilherme,
Can't recall how much room there is at the sending unit. Might be able to install a tee fitting with the existing sensor.
Any idea where you would place the gauge?
Let us know if you do this mod.
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chopper_harris
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| SugarHillCTD wrote: |
Can't recall how much room there is at the sending unit. Might be able to install a tee fitting with the existing sensor.
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Not enough - the auxilliary sender for the water temperature gauge is butted up close to the oil pressure sender.
The only realistic solution would be a pipe appx 50mm long with a male thread at each end, to screw into the oilpump and into the T-piece.
IIRC, oil pressure senders are quite bulky, maybe 25mm diam and 40mm long.
There will be enough clearance inside the fairing - just as well, for it will not look very pretty.
Are you planning to mount the gauge in the fairing trim, adjacent to the vanity light unit.
This is how the airhead RS/RT were done, and lwill ook very effective.
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bmwmick
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Guilherme,
Don't waste your time. If you are diagnosing a problem, hook up a gauge temporarily but then remove it. These engines do NOT suffer from oil related problems and adding a gauge just adds a point of failure that you do not need.
my 2 cents, worth exatly what you paid for it. 
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drmalacarne
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| bmwmick wrote: | Guilherme,
Don't waste your time. If you are diagnosing a problem, hook up a gauge temporarily but then remove it. These engines do NOT suffer from oil related problems and adding a gauge just adds a point of failure that you do not need.
my 2 cents, worth exatly what you paid for it. |
I looked the placew that the oil pressure sender is located, and the place is pretty tight....
And the fairing is very close.
I believe I'll follow your recomendation....
Thanks.
Guilherme.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| drmalacarne wrote: | | bmwmick wrote: | Guilherme,
Don't waste your time. If you are diagnosing a problem, hook up a gauge temporarily but then remove it. These engines do NOT suffer from oil related problems and adding a gauge just adds a point of failure that you do not need.
my 2 cents, worth exatly what you paid for it. |
I looked the placew that the oil pressure sender is located, and the place is pretty tight....
And the fairing is very close.
I believe I'll follow your recomendation....
Thanks.
Guilherme. |
Hey, I put one on my LT, it was easy peasy. I'll post a photo of the sender tonight. the guage on the left is fuel pressure.
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drmalacarne
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Great, Larry!
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
Guilherme.
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Larry you have a great looking family but you need to size down the sig a bit. 
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lrome48
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| drmalacarne wrote: | Great, Larry!
I'm waiting.
Thanks.
Guilherme. |
Here you go Gui, I painted itwith PJ1, but it did not wear well. I'll take it off and redo it with some epoxy to mke the coating more durable.
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drmalacarne
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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must The sender have 2 switches? One for the gauge and one for the light?
What's the brand of the gauge?
Do you know if Autometer has any gauge that will work?
Thanks.
Guilherme.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| drmalacarne wrote: | must The sender have 2 switches? One for the gauge and one for the light?
What's the brand of the gauge?
Do you know if Autometer has any gauge that will work?
Thanks.
Guilherme. |
It's a standard VDO oil pressure gauge, the sender is also standard with a threaded adapter. I'll try to find the details and post them. Correct, there are two contacts, one for pressure,and one for the light. I pulled one wire down for the pressure side, and used the existing light wire.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: Details |
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| drmalacarne wrote: | must The sender have 2 switches? One for the gauge and one for the light?
What's the brand of the gauge?
Do you know if Autometer has any gauge that will work?
Thanks.
Guilherme. |
Gui,
The gauge is VDO# 360-006
The sender is dual post, 12mm thread VDO# 350-040
The guage pods are VDO# 240-016
The pods mount through the rear and I drilled one 1/4" clearance hole in the dash for each pod, and used a fender washer on the backside with a nylock fastener. I had to cut a piece of 3/4" pvc about 3/4" long angled at one end to match the contour of the dash as a spacer between the pod and dash, and I painted them flat black with PJ1. The guage pods secure the gauges with setscrews that I drilled at 90 degrees and tapped. I think I used 1/4-28 thread screws. I also put an oring on the guage lip where it meets the pod. Still secure after 30+K miles.
I am going o do some PM on the bike soon as I get teh two rice burners I am repairing out of the garage. I'll post pictures soon.
egauges.com has them all.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: Details |
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| drmalacarne wrote: | must The sender have 2 switches? One for the gauge and one for the light?
What's the brand of the gauge?
Do you know if Autometer has any gauge that will work?
Thanks.
Guilherme. |
Gui,
The gauge is VDO# 360-006
The sender is dual post, 12mm thread VDO# 350-040
The guage pods are VDO# 240-016
The pods mount through the rear and I drilled one 1/4" clearance hole in the dash for each pod, and used a fender washer on the backside with a nylock fastener. I had to cut a piece of 3/4" pvc about 3/4" long angled at one end to match the contour of the dash as a spacer between the pod and dash, and I painted them flat black with PJ1. The guage pods secure the gauges with setscrews that I drilled at 90 degrees and tapped. I think I used 1/4-28 thread screws. I also put an oring on the guage lip where it meets the pod. Still secure after 30+K miles.
I am going o do some PM on the bike soon as I get teh two rice burners I am repairing out of the garage. I'll post pictures soon.
egauges.com has them all.
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drmalacarne
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Larry.
I bought in fleabay the sender:
And the gauge:
But I don't find the pod yet.
I'll follow your instructions to install the gauge in my LT.
And what's that other gauge in the right?
Thanks.
Guilherme.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Gui,
The other guage is the fuel pressure. It is actually the same oil pressure gauge (350-040) with the OIL stencil removed and FUEL stenciled over it. I had it done at North Hollywood Speedometer. www.nhspeedometer.com
Ask for Kurt, and give him the pod number. He said he will sell them for $10. I'll send a picture of the fuel sender mounting and get the part number later today.
One important bit of information. DO NOT use teflon tape or sealer on the threads of the sender. The sender grounds through the fitting.
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lrome48
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Gui,
Check out this thread. You can see the fuel pressure sender in the photo of the cruise linkage. The egauges part number is 360-003. Because the fuel line connection is to the tee and hose barbs the sender does not have a ground. I made one with a piece of #18 wire. I grounded the wire to the frame, then stripped back an inch and tinned the end with solder. Then I used a gear clamp and clamped the wire on the sender body. You can cover the connection with a wrap of Scotch +33 electrical tape and your done.
http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4429&highlight=cruise+control
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