K11 Owners Group

Al. · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Battery preservation.

I noticed in the owners manual that you should take off the earth cable on top of the gearbox area before taking out battery ??
Well I was thinking- rather than taking off a battery connection this would be easier on order to save battery without taking it out! !

Anybody know if that would have the same affect as disconnecting battery????? I was planning on connecting a short length of cable to the bolt so I could disconnect this more easily without having to poke about in there. Please Wink

Does that make sense?

Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Battery preservation.

ken · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Battery ground test.

The test for this would be to remove the cable you are refering to.

Then put an ohm meter between the negative (assumed grounded terminal) and the frame. If there is continuity then the "earth" ground has not been totally removed. and the theory is not going to work.
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Jim · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: battery ground cable

hi Al - you don't say which bike you're working on - I have to assume it's some sort of K bike. You also don't say where you are, but since you say "earth" instead of ground, I'll assume you're somewhere in the UK, or some country that used to be part of the UK.

I only have a US K1100 RS/LT manual. I quote from it:

"Removing and Installing battery
Tools required
Allen keys - 4mm
Open ended wrench - 10mm
Screwdriver with reversible blade

Procedure for removing battery

1 ) Place motorcycle on center stand
2 ) Switch off Ignition
3 ) Open the dualseat
4 ) Remove right battery cover
5 ) Disconnect earth/ground (1) on plug of injection control unit
6 ) After releasing the snap catch, detach plug from injection control unit (I always skip this step and leave it plugged in - doesn't seem to hurt anything)
7 ) Remove retaining screw from the injection control unit
8 ) Remove the injection control unit by lifting out backwards and upwards
9 ) Remove battery holder retaining screws
10) Remove retaining plate
11) Use a screwdriver to lift up protective cap at positive terminal
12) Disconnect battery cables
first of all from negative terminal
then from positive terminal
13) Pull battery ventilation hose out of battery housing
14) Lift out battery to the rear/up the way"

I don't see any need to take the earth cable loose on the gearbox. Just remove it from the battery first, positive second, and always reverse when reinstalling - positive first, negative second.

Best thing to preserve a battery is keep some kind of slow charger on it.
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Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000

"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed."

gpzoduibh · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:33 am Post subject:

" but since you say "earth" instead of ground, I'll assume you're somewhere in the UK, or some country that used to be part of the UK. "

Hi Jim you used to be part of the Empire dont forget !

Also all lead acid batteries will self discharge slowly even if they are disconnected completely .

Regards
Bill Black
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2010 KTM 450 EXC
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1989 K100RS (8V) special edition
1974 Yamaha DT360
1972 Sanglas 400 T
1980 Yamaha XS110-Watsonian Palma sidecar
1966 Bridgestone 175 dualtwin
1980 BMW R100RS
1979 Bultaco sherpa T 350
1979 Yamaha DT175MX
1990 Honda XR250R

Jim · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:56 am Post subject:

Al. · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Battery

Hi folks,
I used to say 'greetings from Ireland' but nobody ever took notice.
I even tried 'greetings from sunny Ireland' ! ! !

I will study above and do a test.
It might take a while to get to though.

It's a K1100LTSE 1994
Thanks

Al.