K11 Owners Group

drmalacarne · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: Unexpected Stop!

Hi!
I'm a new member from Brazil, São Paulo.
Last weekend mu 1994 K1100LT SE, during a hard acceleration in 2° gear, in a abrupt way was dead, including the fuel level and temperature gauge; only the dash lights stayed on.
I have this BMW for the last year and rode some 14k miles in this period.
I tryed to restart the bike several times, but withouth success.
I pulled the bike to the side of the road, with the ignition on, and during this I felt the ABS checking (the "cleck-cleck" in the brake lever), and after that, in the next try, the bike started promptly and until now the problem is solved spontaneously.
I thought in that moment that a fuse was burned, but obviosly that not happened.
I ride very often and hard (long periods) with my LT, and I'm afraid that that "bug" return in a more permanent way, in a wrong place.
I wonder if some friend here in the board had passed a similar problem, or if someone have a light for me.
Was the ABS involved?
Thanks in avance and in the next days I'll post smoe pictures on my 6.500miles lone trip to Santiago, Chile, in the pictures topic.
Guilherme.
São Paulo, Brazil.

Flying Duck · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject:

My first guess would be the sidestand switch.
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Off the grid · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject:

Hey I was just is Sao Paulo in November.

My wife is from Araras. Razz

Welcome to the boards!

Bem vindo!
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drmalacarne · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:

FlyingDuck, the side stand was up, for sure, because I was accelerating in second from a signal stop, and already put first, and during the hard lauch, I can't imagine a way to the side stand open.
Off the Grid, Araras is a nice place, and is 100miles from SP. That's a good way to ride!
Thanks for the wellcome!
Guilherme.
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1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
Yes, a Hog and a Beemer can live together!

Flying Duck · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

Sidestand switches can be finicky though - regardless of whether the sidestand is actually down or not. And if everything just cut out like that then that's what might do it.

If I were you, I'd see if the sidestand being down causes the gauges to stop working as you described. I think that might confirm that it is the sidestand swich.

The other possible problem is the Hall Effect Sensor(timing sensor) going bad but I don't see how that would cut power to your gauges.

(I hate the sidestand switch, I've disabled it on both of my bikes.)
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Daniël V · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:28 am Post subject:

I doubt it's the hall sensor, as the temperature gauge etc also died.

the sidestandswitch may indeed be bad, or it may be a intermittent break in the wiring to the ignition lock.

some simple checks would be to turn the ignition on, use both brakes to turn the red indicator light off. Then take hold of the wire bundle to the lock and flexing it, while looking at the gauges. any change and'you found it. Then the same with the sidestand switch and wiring and you got a good chance of finding it.

HTH,

Daniel

BMGraeme · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

I had the same problem a while ago - disabling the sidestand switch was the cure in my case to. The switch had gone intermittent and it would kill the engine when going over a bump or even under acceleration.
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drmalacarne · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject:

Now, to me, is clear that the switch was the cause!
I'll disable this thing in my K too.
Thanks for the help, friends!
Sincerely, Guilherme.
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1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
Yes, a Hog and a Beemer can live together!

abreeze · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject:

My ingition switch went bad and doing the same thing. It was very sensitive, justg a little movement would break contact.

The switch has multiple contacts in the ON position, so it operates the aux system as well as the Ignition system.

Daniël V · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:58 am Post subject:

owrstrich · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:07 am Post subject:

i have a side stand... but i aint gotts no steering lock and i aints gotts no center stand...

i dont know why you geezers fark you bricks with ch1t like fancy center stands and anti thieving steering locks...

you guys should spend your trust funds on things like a new squatch snatch...

crazy aints it...

yous gotts toos eats...

owrstrich
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Jim · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: non farkles

Johnny - who stole your centerstand and steering lock? Those aren't farkles - they're original parts...
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1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
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drmalacarne · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject:

Yes, Daniël, check the kill switch is a good idea! Here in Brazil I ride very often in the rain, and a problem in that eletronic part that is alway exposed to the water is probable!
And owrstrich, my LT came with the canterstand and steering lock! Excepting the HP2, I believe almost every BMW came from the factory with a centerstand.
Guilherme.[/quote]
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1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
Yes, a Hog and a Beemer can live together!

Mystic Red · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:46 am Post subject:

drmalacarne · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:07 am Post subject:

I didn't understand too!
In the last months the only money that I spent with my KLT was to gasoline...
Guilherme.
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1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
Yes, a Hog and a Beemer can live together!

Stoked Steve · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:03 am Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: