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Grunter · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:04 pm Post subject: Another K1100LT

I have got my eye on a 1996 K1100LT with only 26K miles which is up for sale at a quite decent price. I am going to have a look at it on Thursday and make up my mind.

From the pictures I have seen, it is in pretty damn good condition with a few major spares thrown in. Full service history and from all accounts kept in a very high standard with no money spared.

I have sold one of my K75's and if the K1100 it comes up to what I hope it does I may sell the other as well. (I don't really have the room in my garage for 2 bikes.)
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Grunter · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:50 pm Post subject:

I went and had a goodlook at the bike and yes it is in very good condition with only 25.5K miles recorded.

However there may be a problem with the ABS. When the ignition was switched on the ABS light started to flash out of step with each other.. I always understood that if this happened there was a fault and the lights should flash together.

The owner was reluctant for me to take it out on the road despite it being roadworthy and correctly documented,so I am minded to turn it down. I know when I had an R1100RT when the lights flashed out of sequence it was usually a sign of a drop in battery voltage so after riding for a couple of hundred yards I would stop the motor for a few seconds and then restart and usually the lights extinguished. But with the owners reluctance to allow me to do this I am having second thoughts.

Otherwise the bike is fine. Any thoughts please.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:17 pm Post subject:

If the owner is reluctant to let you ride it in order to see if the ABS initializes OK then ask the owner to take it for a short spin and show you that both lights are out before it is turned off.
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Jim · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:07 am Post subject: ABS

ABS can be fixed... I wouldn't let that stop me. If the price is right. Low mileage bikes in good condition are rare.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:35 am Post subject: Re: ABS

Grunter · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:34 am Post subject:

I'm afraid he would not take it out either. having virtually given up riding. He was insistent that the alternative flashing was normal but having owned one before I know it isn't, so he is stuck with the bike that is unsaleable , to me anyway.

I don't need the ABS but if I was paying what he asked, I would want it working.
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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:22 am Post subject:

Grunter, do you have MOT inspections there?
I'd have thought that the bike would have failed an inspection if the ABS isn't functioning 100% correctly since it's considered a 'safety component'.
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Mike d · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:32 am Post subject:

Yes we have MOT tests, but the ABS is not covered by it. They only test the efficiency of the brakes, so even if the ABS isn't working, the ABS2 module still allows full hydraulic brake capacity (unlike the iABS on bikes such as the R1150 etc).

John, the standalo0ne GS-911 unit specific to the bikes with the three pin diagnostic port, can read the ABS for faults and even if the battery is low, can reset the ABS lights. I tested this on my K1100 as it had an 'ABS light fault' registered (my battery was a bit low). The unit reset the lights back to flashing in unison. If I charge the battery a bit, I'm sure when I next start the bike all will operate as it should. I also do the 'ride the bike for a few miles stop and restart' to clear the alternate flashing problem.

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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject:

Grunter · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:07 am Post subject:

Considering that the bike is located over 250 miles from where I live, going down there and back again is not really a realistic prospect. The owner was an odd fellow who I think would not allow me to play around with the bike in situ and there is no way I am going to pay what he was asking with an obvious visible fault. If he offered to drop the price by £500 I would have taken it and removed the ABS relay myself, but I am not paying what was asked.

As Mike D said we can use an originally ABS fitted vehicle if there is a fault so long as the actual brakes come up to test standard and the flashing lights are disabled. If they are not, it is an automatic fail.

Even if I had taken the bike in it's present condition, driving back home with the lights flashing, technically and legally I would be driving an unroadworthy vehicle which could render my insurance cover invalid. Under present English Road Traffic Law if the fault happened during a journey it is OK to travel to my destination for a repair, but as the fault was there before I started the trip, that would be illegal.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:41 pm Post subject: