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hosehoundfr86
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:59 pm    Post subject: Drive shaft/ front U-joint Reply with quote

So today,, I was very fortunate to have remove the driveshaft on my 1993 K1100 RS with about 106,000 kms on it and found the front universal joint is bad,, I can't believe I am sitting here typing. One end is completely dry and there are no bearings in it.I shutter to think of what could have happened,, Can the u-joint be replaced ? I haven't found where to get one if it can be .If I can't get this fixed without having to buy a new driveshaft I will junk the bike. Thanks for any help you can give me. Hilton
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of others having the joints replaced.
The yokes get machined a bit to accept retaining rings for the replacement joints.
I can't say as I know where it can be done unfortunately.
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hosehoundfr86
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ,, I'll try our local driveshaft specialist on Tuesday,, new is pricey at $1025.99, plus delivery and import duty to Canada
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugarhill had a shaft fail, he did a post here about a rebuild service. You might search and read what he thought about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N41EF wrote:
Sugarhill had a shaft fail, he did a post here about a rebuild service. You might search and read what he thought about it.


The guy who worked on John's drive shaft will not work on K bike driveshafts - only R bike. I spoke with him - he doesn't even remember working on John's.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/bmw-k1-kardanwelle-k1-k-100rs-k-1100-rs-k-1100-lt-gebraucht/1173822476-306-16945

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-39000km/312734456582?hash=item48d06d1b06:g:FR4AAOSwfe5dV9cf&autorefresh=true

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-Hinterradgetriebe-nur-45000/312714694026?hash=item48cf3f8d8a:g:W~QAAOSwJrpdPExH

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-Hinterradgetriebe-nur-38000km-TOP-1995/312688037719?hash=item48cda8cf57:g:v7YAAOSwyP5dIF0Y
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually it's the rear U-joint that fails but it's not unheard of for the front one to fail. (When I tour on a K1100 I always throw a rear drive shaft half into the tail cowl so that I can replace it on the road and not get stranded.)

If you buy a used drive shaft make sure that there's no "lumpiness" in the U-joint when it's rotated. It's also a good idea to check for U-joint lumpiness when doing a spline lube.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:07 pm    Post subject: Driveshaft Reply with quote

flybd5 wrote:
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/bmw-k1-kardanwelle-k1-k-100rs-k-1100-rs-k-1100-lt-gebraucht/1173822476-306-16945

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-39000km/312734456582?hash=item48d06d1b06:g:FR4AAOSwfe5dV9cf&autorefresh=true

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-Hinterradgetriebe-nur-45000/312714694026?hash=item48cf3f8d8a:g:W~QAAOSwJrpdPExH

https://www.ebay.de/itm/K1100RS-Kardan-Kardanwelle-Hinterradgetriebe-nur-38000km-TOP-1995/312688037719?hash=item48cda8cf57:g:v7YAAOSwyP5dIF0Y


Good driveshaft for sale on the first website ,, E Bay in Germany,, how does one navigate not knowing German?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://translate.google.com/ maybe? Or there are other online translators https://duckduckgo.com/?q=translate&ia=web
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robleyd wrote:
https://translate.google.com/ maybe? Or there are other online translators https://duckduckgo.com/?q=translate&ia=web


Thank you,, I'll give it a shot,, Hilton
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robleyd wrote:
https://translate.google.com/ maybe? Or there are other online translators https://duckduckgo.com/?q=translate&ia=web
,,

Thanks,, translation works great,,,
For the money I might as well buy new here in North America,,, onward and upward,, Hilton
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject: rear diferential housing Reply with quote

what size is the Allan Key for the fixed pivot on the rear housing? Thanks ,,
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12mm
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott_Anderson wrote:
12mm


Thank You sir,,:: Hilton
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you put things back together:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/dsphase/dsphase.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:16 pm    Post subject: drive shaft phasing Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
When you put things back together:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/dsphase/dsphase.htm


Always great information,, Thanks : Hilton
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:14 am    Post subject: 1993 K1100 Reply with quote

Question for ya,, Aprox how much do you think this bike is worth as a parts bike or restoration project bike,, I'm just trying to weigh my options here,, ABS stopped working front brake master cylinder needs rebuilt (and the driveshaft )... I could deliver to someone close enough to the Boarder,, probably wouldn't make any money but we could get a mini vacation out of it. $1000?
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