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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Stalling on moving off. |
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Changed all filters and plugs.
Still doing it.
Any ideas please?
Will drive out on the road no problem. _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3121 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Check for vacuum leaks, especially the the main "Z" hose behind the TB assy. _________________ Ride safe.
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N41EF Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 406 Location: Aiken, SC
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Check the four rubber caps on the throttle bodies too. _________________ 2014 R1200RT Water Cooled
2001 R1100S Light
1993 K1100LT. Nissan Ice Blue.(Gone) |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10097 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Another common possibility for air leaks is the boots between the TBs and the cylinder head getting old and cracked. By now, they are 25 years old and have been through a lot of heat cycles.
A simple test is to take the LT left lower off and spray one of the following around the boots below the TBs: fine water mist, propane/butane, starter fluid.
If the idle decreases with the water mist or increases with a flammable product then that's where you issue is. They're not that hard to replace.
Disclaimer: IF you use something flammable use caution not to start a fire and have a fire extinguisher handy just in case. (That said, I've done it with starter fluid many, many times and never had an issue so there's no need to be paranoid about it, just cautious.) _________________ 93 LT (x2)
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86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for tips.
Clarification - I can get away if I give it lots of revs.
On easy throttle it stalls.
Checked contacts at coils - ok _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10097 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Minor air leaks can temporarily seem to "cure" themselves as RPMs increase because
a) the volume of air leaked in is a smaller percentage of the total ariflow
b) the increased vacuum can close up the crack that is causing the leak _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks again. _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Oscar91
Joined: 11 Apr 2018 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Just leave the second gear in and pull the clutch. As long as you pull the clutch in time, nothing stalls. If you are lazy, you can also start from the stand again in the second gear. |
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get that.
Could it be caused by breather pipes connected to air box.
The little short one is covered in oil..
I notice now it's inclined to cut out whe I stop.
Haven't had time to seriously investigate.
Only driving around the road to test it
The pressure regulator is buried under the box too
Now I have acquired a gift of a Suzuki Burgman 650 so the
garage is kinda full.
Drove 120 miles on it today taking it home. _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Decided to have a look this evening and run the engine.
Funny thing happened.
When I turned the handlebars to the right it cut out!!!!!
Check out wiring to ignition I guess. _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3121 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have read of others having switch wires with internal conductors broken where the loom flexes near the headstock. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Scott_Anderson wrote: | I have read of others having switch wires with internal conductors broken where the loom flexes near the headstock. |
I agree. After 24 to 30+ years (and how many high heat cycles?) the wire and insulation on these bikes under the fuel tank and forward to the controls gets really stiff. _________________ John & Cathy
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10097 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Only make left turns. 3 lefts = 1 right _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Flying Duck wrote: | Only make left turns. 3 lefts = 1 right |
I'm not politically inclined
I searched here for info on a fix but didn't find anything.
Haven't looked at Clymer yet. _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Mike d Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 130 Location: Daventry UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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If it cuts out when turning the bars, then have a look where the ignition switch loom is tie wrapped to the frame. The constant bending can cause internal fractures, but the insulation may still be intact.
Try to tug the wires apart one by one, sometimes that will be enough to see the broken one stretch.
Mike |
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Mike d wrote: | If it cuts out when turning the bars, then have a look where the ignition switch loom is tie wrapped to the frame. The constant bending can cause internal fractures, but the insulation may still be intact.
Try to tug the wires apart one by one, sometimes that will be enough to see the broken one stretch.
Mike |
Good thinking _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Waggeled wires at thd bottom of the switch and it cut out.
Will I havd to take it out to fix wires.
I'd say it's broken at the switch.
New switch?????? _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10097 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
Agree. But do I have to drill out unit to get it off??
I lifted the cover but the other cables don't leave a lot of room to work.
I have soldered switches before.
Will the switches go back through the cover??
Is there a special tool for replacing the bolts?
Any point in trying to resolder the wires?
If you answer all the questions you get a prize _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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Al. Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 392 Location: West of Ireland
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Found grub screw with red paint.
Cleaned off the paint
Took out "glove box" and managed to get screw out without losing it.
Didn't have to drill out the lock.
Found broken wire.
Switch dismantled !!!!!!!!!
Not sure it will go back but I found the problem
Thanks everybody _________________ 1994 K1100 LTSE + Blackbird |
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