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Final drive start of an oil leak.

 
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Grunter
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:52 pm    Post subject: Final drive start of an oil leak. Reply with quote

I have found that I have a slight oil leak from the final drive on my K1100LT. Using the workshop ROM Disc, I can see where the seal should be but cannot make head nor tail how to replace it. Any clues please. As the drive box has to come off would it be worthwhile replacing the rubber boot as well.

When I say it has a slight leak, there is an escape of oil but the level has not visibly dropped in 2500 miles since it was changed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John,

Which seal are you referring to.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one I think will be the problem is the one that stops the oil from escaping from the final drive into the casing where the drive shaft splines connect to the input shaft.
There is one listed in Motorworks new parts list but I cannot see where it is located on the exploded diagramme.

When I owned my K75 and K100 bikes that seal always leaked slightly but the sealant between the swinging arm and the final drive housing ensured there was no leak between the joint.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think #4 here:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0536-USA-09-1992-89V2-BMW-K_1100_LT_0526,_0536_&diagId=33_0638
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
I think #4 here:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0536-USA-09-1992-89V2-BMW-K_1100_LT_0526,_0536_&diagId=33_0638


That is a lot clearer than the BMW CD ROM disc.

Yes that will be the seal, but what are the two items 'greyed out' items 9 and 10? Have they been determined as not needed what would be used in place

The locking ring (3) will probably need a special tool to remove but the UK BMW club will almost certainly have one which I can hire.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in the BMW Club Uk tool Hire facility we have the castellated tool for the threaded ring, as well as the drift for installing the new seal in it (but you could get away without that.

A little sealant on the threads of the ring will prevent any oil wicking up the threads.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grunter wrote:

Yes that will be the seal, but what are the two items 'greyed out' items 9 and 10? Have they been determined as not needed what would be used in place


BMW re-uses parts diagrams for multiple bikes so those parts may apply to a different bike's final drive. That's my guess.

I have the 2001 BMW parts software (ETK) and 9 & 10 don't appear there.




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:19 pm    Post subject: Final Drive Reply with quote

I have pulled the final drive off the swinging arm after draining the oil. There was about a large spoonful sitting in the bottom of the rubber boot, perhaps 20-25cc's, The driveshaft was clean and dry internally so the oil had not migrated down from the gearbox seal.

The oil I used is a relatively new semisynthetic 75/90 GL5 which is virtually colourless and had been used for around 2500 miles. It was still very clean but with black streaks which I assume was the seal in question starting to break up.

What I did find was the input shaft was able to be moved in and out by hand around 5-7mm. Is this normal? (Not backlash when turned, that is fine).

The needle bearings were good and there were no rough spots on the splines which were perfect and appeared unworn. They needed greasing though!

I don't have the expertise to change the seal so it is being done for me by an independent dealer who specialises in BMW's
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