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Mystic Red · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: Why can a seller cancel

bids on EBay but if you back out of a bid they take away your birthday?
Bid started at .99 and I put in a max bid of $10.00. No one else bid so I get a back up K11 fan for a bargain, right? Wrong. Seller canceled all bids and pulled the item. That bites.

http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=230405444575
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SugarHillCTD · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject:

Scott,

Can you complain to eBay?
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drikko · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject:

Pretty sure the seller can do what they want. I had to pull an item off ebay myself after bids and all as the person I was selling it for died so it suddenly became part of the estate so it couldn't be sold legally.

I agree that's probably a bit unusual and wouldn't apply to the fan, that's simply someone not getting as much as they wanted in which case they should have put a minimum bid in there and risk getting no bids.

Did he pull the item before or after the end of the auction?

Probably worth reading the fine print one day!
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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

A seller can cancel for whatever reason they want, but not in the last 12 hours. It may be the item was stolen or lost or the seller determined it didn't work. Or whatever.

If they just weren't getting what they wanted then they're a rookie seller because:

a) Unless you KNOW the item will sell for a high price, then start the listing at the minimum you're willing to take for it.

b) Most seasoned bidders don't bid until the last few minutes or seconds. You can't cancel a listing in the last 12 hours so ending a listing just because the price hasn't gotten where you wanted it is dumb.

As a buyer, you have two options when a seller cancels a listing:

a) Man up and walk away.

b) Whine about it.

I always chose a). Razz

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Mystic Red · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:

SugarHillCTD · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:08 am Post subject:

I've sold a bunch of stuff on eBay. I've canceled a listing or two. Don't remember the exact reasons but it was the right thing to do and not because I wasn't getting any bids. If you sell enough on eBay eventually there will be an occasion where it makes sense to cancel a listing.
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Beachcomber · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:57 am Post subject:

Here's a ploy for those irritating assoles who advertise a 2 year old Corvette starting at .99p / cents. Rolling Eyes

It is quite obvious that they won't take anywhere near that figure, so IF you can't be assed to bid up in 5 dollar / pound increments - here's what I do. Put in a bid of 1 million pounds / dollars. That flags up the reserve, then apologise profusely to all concerned and say your finger got stuck on the zero key and you really meant to bid 10 whatevers. Twisted Evil

I always start at the minimum I'll take and state - "no reserve on sale from first bid", works for me. Laughing

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Mystic Red · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject:

Replied to my question.

Jim · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject:

too hot to ride PFFFT! I'd move...
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Mystic Red · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

I marked him in my favs as a "non-seller." Twisted Evil

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m1ks · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:

ebay introduced the last 12 hr rule specifically to avoid reserve price evasion as it were.
Back in the before time and long long ago people listed cheaply at 99p start then would can the auction with a minute or even seconds to go if the price reached wasn't to their liking, the seller was being a tight arse and avoiding paying for a higher starting price or reserve listing.
You'd spot them easily as the item would mysteriously be relisted again shortly after, on the odd occassion i wanted an item on one of these 'dodgy' auctions i'd just look elsewhere after the first time and likely most others did.

ebay then entered the above ruling and effectively put a stop to it becuase, as one other poster already pointed out, everbody knows the action happens in the last couple minutes so pulling an auction before the deadline is likely to be for a genuine reason.

Dunno if you did but you could e-mail the seller and ask why, if the items still for sale and so on?

Mystic Red · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:26 am Post subject:

This was his reply: