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mrsevendog
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Cruise control install link Reply with quote

I can't find Flying Ducks cruise control install link for the K11rs can anyone point me to it?Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/k11cruise/k11cruiseInstall.shtml

A few things to note. That was my first one. Since then:

1) The switch settings in that write-up for #1 and #2 are reversed. (I've emailed IBMWR several times to update it, they haven't and I give up.)

2) The VRC is not needed. Put the vacuum check valve (which IS needed) as close to the TBs as is practical.

3) Mount the servo under the seat. For ABS I, just slide the bar in by the ABS brain. For ABS II, just leave it loose under the seat - that's what I did on my RS. The cable is the perfect length to run up the right side of the bike, across the top of the radiator and then down to the throttle linkage.

4) If you have an ABS II bike, the coil wires are the same color. Hook up a voltmeter in AC mode. The one the varies and registers between 6-9 volts when you rev the engine is the one you want ot tap the blue wire into.

5) The blue wire CAN be cut, just make sure you keep the filter (resistor) under the red tag in the blue wire somewhere.

6) Get some 2" aluminum bar stock fomr the hardware store for mounting the control pad. When you put a right angle in it, pound it with a hammer while bending it. Aliminum is brittle and will fail if you just try to bend it at a right angle.

7) Don't put beans up your nose. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Duck.I have ABS1 on the bike.I don't understand why I can't stick beans up my nose there's plenty of room for em.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds even easier to install now that building a VRC isn't required.


Thanks! I'm looking forward to pulling off the throttle lock button I installed years ago that has prevented the throttle from snapping back to idle when released. I had to tighten it enough to keep it from slipping when engaged and that puts pressure on the friction ring even when not engaged. This problem will vanish once I upgrade to the cruise control Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4) If you have an ABS II bike, the coil wires are the same color. Hook up a voltmeter in AC mode. The one the varies and registers between 6-9 volts when you rev the engine is the one you want ot tap the blue wire into.

The coil wires are the same color - but not the same size. You want to use the larger of the two - no voltmeter required.

6) Get some 2" aluminum bar stock fomr the hardware store for mounting the control pad. When you put a right angle in it, pound it with a hammer while bending it. Aliminum is brittle and will fail if you just try to bend it at a right angle.

Buy a piece of aluminum angle - you won't have to bend it...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a small piece of stainless steel instead of aluminum. I has some leftover from another project. Worked just a good.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott_Anderson wrote:
I used a small piece of stainless steel instead of aluminum. I has some leftover from another project. Worked just a good.


Yes, but you added another 1/2 oz of weight and slowed the bike down. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
Scott_Anderson wrote:
I used a small piece of stainless steel instead of aluminum. I has some leftover from another project. Worked just a good.


Yes, but you added another 1/2 oz of weight and slowed the bike down. Laughing


I tried to compensate with an extra coat of wax! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All
Im fitting my cruise control and have seen on here in a few post that it can be connected to the speed sensor as well as the tach (coil) does anyone know what colour wire to connect it to please?
Also is there a way of connecting it to the ctutch switch too?

Rob
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: Tach wire Reply with quote

Rob,
Tach/coil wire is green- tap right by the rear coil.
Don't know about speed sensor, if there is one. Duck may post the difinitive info.

I thought about a clutch lock out as my car has it--but I don't think there is a lock out there. May be wrong. As it turns out, no real reason for it as a tap on either brake shuts it all down.

that's the quick answer. More to come from experts I'm sure.

Good luck
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobWheatley wrote:
Hi All
Im fitting my cruise control and have seen on here in a few post that it can be connected to the speed sensor as well as the tach (coil) does anyone know what colour wire to connect it to please?
Also is there a way of connecting it to the ctutch switch too?

Rob


Connect the black/gray combo wires from the servo to the speedo sensor wires. The black from the cruise servo connects to the brown from the speedo sensor and the gray connects to the other one.

There's no need to connect it to the clutch switch. If you pull in the clutch the cruise control will disengage once it senses an rpm surge of more than a few hundred RPM from the wire tapped into the coils.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Duck
Is it ok to do that at the connector behind the side panel, Loom side so i can remove the sensor if needed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobWheatley wrote:
Hi Duck
Is it ok to do that at the connector behind the side panel, Loom side so i can remove the sensor if needed.
Rob


I would, that's where I connected to my brake switches, on the loom side so I could replace the switch when needed. Or be able to remove it for other maintenance.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.... I did it the other way so the bike could go back to stock and have the wiring harness unharmed.

It really doesn't matter though. The electrons don't know which side of the connector they're on.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its fitted and connected (not the speed sensor yet) and seems to work OK, it wont engage below 40mph and there is a lag between pressing set and it taking over, it might be because I took the vac connection from only one of the throttle bodies, I need to get some T's and do it from all 4 I think.
I looked for the fuel pressure regulator vac line and could not find it (the fuel pressure regulator that is) Im wondering if it has been removed by a PO, I am right in thinking it should be fitted with one.
As soon as I dab the brake it disengages and it is very gentle when pressing resume, maybe a bit too gentle.
Might be going on a ride tomorrow so will see how it performs then.

Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It only needs to be hooked up to one throttlebody.

4 valve Ks don't have a FPR vacuum hose.

You can change the DIP switch settings to a medium powered vehicle and it will pull harder but be more jerky. I think the high powered vehicle setting is a good for an RS and medium powered vehicle for an LT.

Did you install a vacuum check valve in the vacuum hose to the servo?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Duck, was looking for ages.

Yes I put a vacuum check valve in, nearest place to get one was the local pet store, will get a proper one later.

I will change the dip switches to medium power and see how that is.

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