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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Nickel and dimed to death. Reply with quote

I think tranny fail was the nail in the coffin for me.

This job looks to be shaping up to be another $1000+ job.

With the mileage that I ride I believe I need something newer.

Looking at a Bandit 1250 with ABS.

Touquey
ABS
Bulletproof



Or maybe a Yamaha FZ1


Either can be had for at or around 10k off the showroom floor.

Bottom line is that the love affair with the K is almost gone. As my mechanic says, "Yes, the engine can go 250+k miles, but everything else cannot".

Whats next to fail?

ABS?
Valves?
FD?
Some sort of weird electrical problem?

I've put enough money and time into this bike over the last 28 months to purchase a NEW bike.

And to put it plainly I need a bike that I don't have to worry about. After the latest episode I don't get that from the motobrick anymore. Maybe it's because it's approaching 100k, I don't know.

I do know that I am going to take a long, hard look at my options when I get it back, most likely 8-1000 dollars lighter.

Been a good ride, almost 3 years and 50,000+ miles, but it's time for a change. Motorcycling is much more than a hobby for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey OTG, sorry to hear about your waning affection for the 'ol K.

One thing that jumps to my mind, and I'm not passing judgment here, but from your past posts it sound like you ride the HELL out of your bike, all the time.

No machine can be ridden at the 90% thrash level and live long, especially a Japanese bike. It may too late for your LT, but you might want to think about taking it a bit easier on your next steed, and you might not have quite as many wear and tear issues.

Good luck with your next acquisition!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skdonlan wrote:
One thing that jumps to my mind, and I'm not passing judgment here, but from your past posts it sound like you ride the HELL out of your bike, all the time.

No machine can be ridden at the 90% thrash level and live long, especially a Japanese bike. It may too late for your LT, but you might want to think about taking it a bit easier on your next steed, and you might not have quite as many wear and tear issues.

Good luck with your next acquisition!
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+1

I was thinking along the same lines.

Smooth is good.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you could find another LT to ride and keep the old one for a parts bike.
If I have another mechanical failure with either bike that's what I plan to do, keep it for a parts bike and strip it down.

You need to do what YOU and your WIFE decide is best for your situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I am a one bike man till we buy a house. Promise I made to the wife.

I hear you guys.

But I'm thinking in terms of years.

A new bike, or an 07-08 will last (hopefully) 3-5 years, and still be relatively new alas with 50K+ miles.

I do ride at the top end of the tach, but I've never redlined the bike, hell never been over 8k RPMs.

Perhaps a bike with more power would alleviate the need the wring out the tired old bird.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vstrom...



http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/DL1000K9


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're gonna beat the shit out of your bike, you're gonna break shit. That's life. And IVe sen the shit you ride on. I'm with JO, get a Wee. It'll take more abuse (within limits) and the parts are cheaper.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Dave, nobody else is saying it yet but I know they're thinking it: As a relative newcomer here I'm selfishly wondering if abandoning your BMW would mean you're leaving this group as well. Even though when I have a question there are others that I hope to hear from first from a technical perspective, I always look forward to your take on a question. Hope you will continue to haunt these pages no matter what you ride.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Nickel and dimed to death. Reply with quote

Off the grid wrote:

ABS?
Valves?
FD?
Some sort of weird electrical problem?

And to put it plainly I need a bike that I don't have to worry about.....

Motorcycling is much more than a hobby for me.......


Dave, I know what you mean. My last large bike (Honda 900F) was gas and go. When I did sell it at 45,000 miles it ran just like new- oil changes, chain lube, yearly valve checks and tires. That was it.

I'd rather ride than wrench.

At 43,000 my K1100 needs fork seals, clutch lever switch, clutch plate, sidestand switch, a decent shock and a diagnosis of the intermittant electrical gremlin that blows #2 fuse at odd intervals.

I'd rather ride.....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the sentiments guys...rest assured no matter what I ride you guys will not get rid of me that easily....


Regarding the V-Stromm...it's too underpowered for me. Although through my Jim Thorpe trip it seems that I do a lot of off-roading on my K, it is simply not true. I did some fire roads but that's it. And there was an ST1300 on that ride too!

Thing is I use the bike for work too. I am a homecare RN and do visits with my bike. Not because I NEED too, but because I want to have the option. My other option is a 2000 Grand Cherokee with 180k on it. Shocked (runs like a top though)

When there isn't ice on the ground I will ride my bike every day. I need it like an addict needs the needle. I will put in 120 miles for work daily then another 80 hitting some twisties to finish the day. I don't get tired of riding. I do get tired of not riding though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Nickel and dimed to death. Reply with quote

Off the grid wrote:
Looking at a Bandit 1250 with ABS.

Touquey
ABS
Bulletproof...

Or maybe a Yamaha FZ1
Either can be had for at or around 10k off the showroom floor.

But each has chain-drive. Not like the old days, I know, but not at worry-free as a shaft. To get them set up as shown in the photo's (luggage, etc) will cost you a couple more grand. And "bulletproof" is unproven. If this is the direction you're thinking and you're OK with a chain, j o's V-Strom suggestion may be a bit more bulletproof, but not as screaming-fast as the Bandit or FZ1.

Off the grid wrote:
Bottom line is that the love affair with the K is almost gone.

I hear ya'.

Off the grid wrote:
I've put enough money and time into this bike over the last 28 months to purchase a NEW bike.

Now, much of that has been for farkles and doo-dads, correct? You'd have spent much of that on a new ride as well. Am I right?

Off the grid wrote:
And to put it plainly I need a bike that I don't have to worry about...

Hear ya' again. And the parts bike idea makes sense if you have the time to do your own wrenchin' and only ride for recreation. Our K-bikes may "last forever," but they are a bit high-maintenance.

If I were looking for something I'd consider reliable enough for work, fast enough for my speed jones, and has ABS and a shaft drive for around $10 large, I'd look for an '05 - '06 ST1300 or FJR.

Now is a good time to shop.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wee-1000 has 98hp vs. 100 for our bikes. And the Wee weighs quite a bit less with a 6-speed gearbox. I would think it's faster than our bikes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lookedd it up - the Wee-1000 does 0-60 in 3.9 vs. 4.3 for an LT. Maybe I'LL get one. I want to do some Forest Service riding this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried to buy a used one from beemerboneyard.. ? 450$ max

Seems a little premature for a failure. But try putting 100k on most of the jap rides without any failure. Not likely.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one on order from Drake.

I'm not saying that 100k is not good for a bike, but for what I do with it I want a bike with fresher legs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OTG was just looking at you Second gear thread.....

Second gear is the most damage prone gear on any bike(because of the neutral gap) as well as the highest power transfer possible, and if your doing high RPM first-second shifts, your gonna break a lot of second gears over time on any bike.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, as you already know, life is made of choices.....cars??womens??bikes???places to go????
But any bike you ride, you is a fixed and permanent part of the K11OG group!!
Even if you ride a Vespa or a Daelin....
If I can make a suggestion, take a look on a Kawasaki ZZR1200 or a Honda ST1300.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: ride on, your way. Reply with quote

OTG.

Lots of good choices on rides, new & used out there. You do what your heart tells you to, make no apologies ever.

We'll always love ya brother !

I much agree with how you sum up the nickel & diming.If you can't do a lot of stuff your self on the bike, taking it in to a shop can really nick ya up.

Try something else, see how it goes. Enjoy the journey, share it with us so we can all grow.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I much agree with how you sum up the nickel & diming.If you can't do a lot of stuff your self on the bike, taking it in to a shop can really nick ya up.


Ive done everything on my K but major engine/tranny/clutch work.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: new ride Reply with quote

Doing your own work IS the best way to save, AND you get to really know your bike too.

Sorry, did not mean to infer you were not doing the maintainence or the stuff that is doable at home.


The K bikes, and many other BMW's DO have a lot of quirks, some call that " character ", others call it a bother.
When the scale of measurment on that factor slides too far to one side, well, then you know it's time to try something else.

I have a freind who bought a Kawi / Concours at the end of the year on close out, brand new 08 just sitting on the floor, he could not resist and got a great deal.
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