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quadrabrick Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 88 Location: Quadra Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject: Won't start - fuel pump? |
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I just tried to start my '93 k1100. I ran it a month ago. It's filled with premium gas and fuel stabilizer. It's on a tender as well. It turns over fine and fast but won't start. When I parked it, it always started within, I'd say, 2 seconds or less. What I do notice is that when I turn the ignition on, before engaging the starter, there is none of the usual sound of the pump coming to life or pumping up to pressure, whatever that usual sound is. The tank is full, so I put my ear to the side of it. Still, no sound from the pump when I turn the key. From reading my Clymer, I'm guessing it could be the pump, the pump relay or the pressure regulator. Any advice on my next move? Fuses looked like they were fine.
Thanks, Brent _________________ '93 K1100 LT
'80 Honda CX500 Custom (8000 kil.)
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Brent - 1) kill switch, 2) sidestand, 3) sidestand switch _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
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Rafal Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 257 Location: Wroclaw, Poland
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hello!
I would add - fuel pump connector. 4 wires under right side cover, clean, put dielectric grease and check again.
BR _________________ Rafal
K1100RS is a real beast (in Marrakesh Red)
K75S is a real beauty - she has gone , but not to far .
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quadrabrick Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 88 Location: Quadra Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Jim, mucho thanks. I won't say I feel stupid, as a relative newbie. But, I thought 'YES!" when you mentiones it. I've caught that myself before, but after 3 months I guess it was time for a stupid moment again. I moved the bike last night to make some more room in the carport. Of course, after getting it off the centre stand, I flicked out the sidestand. From here on, possibly due to the freezing temperature outside....mind went numb! It just now started in half a sec. Maybe I'll look into that sidestand switch deactivation this spring. I owe you a cold one sir!
Thanks, Brent _________________ '93 K1100 LT
'80 Honda CX500 Custom (8000 kil.)
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quadrabrick Mad Brick Rider

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Rafal....just stupidity this time!
B. _________________ '93 K1100 LT
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Rafal Flying Brick Rider

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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OMG you are relay fast  _________________ Rafal
K1100RS is a real beast (in Marrakesh Red)
K75S is a real beauty - she has gone , but not to far .
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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What a great feeling when a perceived problem turns out to be nothing at all. _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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mike toon Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| quadrabrick wrote: | | Maybe I'll look into that sidestand switch deactivation this spring. | After being the last one to leave the gas station several times, a couple twists of baling wire is all it took to "bypass" that switch. _________________ Current Bikes
1993 K1100LT
1976 GL1000 Naked
1981 GL1100 Naked
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | After being the last one to leave the gas station several times, a couple twists of baling wire is all it took to "bypass" that switch. |
+1 Zip tie for me. _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: no start |
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hey Brent - no problem! I figured it was either the kill switch or the side stand - having used both tricks on myself numerous times
| quadrabrick wrote: | Jim, mucho thanks. I won't say I feel stupid, as a relative newbie. But, I thought 'YES!" when you mentiones it. I've caught that myself before, but after 3 months I guess it was time for a stupid moment again. I moved the bike last night to make some more room in the carport. Of course, after getting it off the centre stand, I flicked out the sidestand. From here on, possibly due to the freezing temperature outside....mind went numb! It just now started in half a sec. Maybe I'll look into that sidestand switch deactivation this spring. I owe you a cold one sir!
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_________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed."
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endoman100 Rider in the Sky

Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 338 Location: Hastings Fl.
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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bin there done that the side stand got me too I even pulled the fuel pump and tested it and put it back in before the guy that gave me the bike said and i quote " is it on The side stand???" the bike sat for so long that the clucth/pressure was froze together as one so I had it on the center stand while doing all the test to get her running. once i got her running I put her on the side stand "not Knowing anything about the switch" and it would not start ,,very pissed I was..but yet another lesson learned And I still have alot to learn..I am so glad that I have MY BMW K1100RS would not want any other at this time  _________________ In the words of the stones
Time Is On My Side
Yes It Is
1993 K1100RS
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Brent,
Had a couple of similar situations that were caused by the sidestand switch. One most memorable being a tight, low speed turn when the engine just died.
It did turn out to to be the ss switch. It is now bypassed- BUT
I hardly ever use the ss. Once when I did, I forgot about it and rode about 1/2 mile with it down. Scared the crap out of me- if I had countersteered into a quick lefthander.................ouch.
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