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Aikoaiko
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Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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Location: Saint Petersburg, Florida, USA

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Rear tire removal question Reply with quote

Hey guys, I got a flat rear and need to remove it from my K1100 RS.....
since the exhaust is in the way, I cant use a star wheel tire wrench... my supplied BMW tire wrench is not long enough, and I dont have a breaker bar handy.... I was trying to use a socket wrench, seems like a 17 mm lug nut... anyway, as I was contemplating the laws of physics... I thought to myself.... could this tire have reverse threads or some European law that Im not familiar with....
I know whoever placed my tire on the rim last used an impact gun to put the lugs on.... Because I will need Herculees by my side in order to loosen the nuts.... but now Im confused as to which way to turn the lugs... Should I turn them clockwise, or counterclockwise, in order to get the tire off?

thanks in Advance

Happy Memorial Day.... ~Salute......

peace
Bill in Florida
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Flying Duck
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Joined: 27 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counterclockwise - normal threads.

You do know that the tube in the factory tool kit is an extension for the lug wrench, right?
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Phil Marvin
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The correct torque for the lug bolts is 105Nm or 77 ft/lb. There is no excuse for the previous "mechanic" to have torqued the bolts to "two grunts and a fart" instead of the specified number.
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Aikoaiko
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Location: Saint Petersburg, Florida, USA

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, well I know now!.... hahaha
Went to HD and got a piece of pipe to use as a breaker-bar.... and used the bmw tool/lug wrench... and whallah.... presto chango... the bolts loosened....quite easily...
without two farts and a grunt....LMAO.....

thanks....
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Bill in Florida
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mike toon
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope HD was the Hardware Department and not a Harley Dealer.
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chopper_harris
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aikoaiko wrote:
Hey, well I know now!.... hahaha
Went to HD and got a piece of pipe to use as a breaker-bar....

thanks....
peace
Bill in Florida


Did you not hear - the dealers are cutting up all of the unsold '07 models for scrap - they fetch more that way Wink

Never, ever let a tyre shop use a windy gun (air wrench) on your baby - those things are brutal, and inaccurate Rolling Eyes
If they don't have a torque wrench, squat down close to the exhaust. A one arm push on a 2' bar will be close enough to get you home, where they should be torqued correctly.
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Aikoaiko
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys....
Yes, HD meant Home Depot....

I might have been 'overstating' the whole impact gun thing...
But it sure felt like they were on there tight....

Anyway, got my tire put back on....

And she rides good as new...

So thanks for the help....

On a side note... When I took my tire off the rear, I did not have a shim... I made sure to look for it.. so it wouldnt fall off... and then Id loose it or whatever... and there was no shim when I took the wheel off... I took the brake caliper off... and removed the brake rotor? (not sure if its called the rotor... the big shiney metal disk with the gear-like teeth on it.. .) And I didnt find a shim anywhere....

So what is a shim.... and should I get one ASAP?

thanks in advance
Bill in Florida
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BMGraeme
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That must be the ABS rotor you took off - did you notice the sensor up close against it? No need to remove that or the brake caliper The shim everyone is referring to is a loose fitment and goes on the R/H side of the wheel and at a guess it's about 3 - 4 inches across. You have to put it back on the wheel before offering the wheel plus shim back up to the bike. I have heard some say the shim either causes or negates a slight R/H bias to the steering. With mine (with shim) if I take my hands off the bars the bike goes to the right (when moving of course!)
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RAL88
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is on sale at ebay and shows what the shim looks like. It is the round flat piece with the 4 holes in it. The other round piece only holds on the hub cap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190171952010&rd=1
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