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avidfan
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Norwalk, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: ABS Fault Diagnosed as Hall Sensor #2: Under Timing Cover? |
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Forum Fellows:
My bike is a '93 K11RS. All last summer I dealt with a flashing ABS light while I rode. I finally got around to the diagnostic test and read an 1133...No signal from Hall Sensor #2. At first I was curious about this result, because the bike had performed fine all along and never showed signs of trouble.
Recently, I came upon a message where the poster described this condition....
"Last summer while riding the bike down a dirt road at 20-25 mph for about 7-8 miles the engine died suddenly when I stopped to ask directions. When I tried to start it it would not start. The bike would crank just fine but it would not start. About 45 minutes later it started and ran fine for a couple of thousand miles on that trip without a hitch. "
This happened to me also. Does this correlate with the Hall Sensor #2 fault? If so, is the sensor located under the timing cover? Is this major surgery to access/replace?
I would appreciate the wisdom of those who've dealt with this. Thank you. |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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I have been dealing with that (bleep) flashing ABS light myself. From what I have read, the engine management computer and the ABS brain function completely separate from each other.
Perhaps we both will learn from the experts here. _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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bmwmick Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 907 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: Re: ABS Fault Diagnosed as Hall Sensor #2: Under Timing Cove |
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| avidfan wrote: | Forum Fellows:
My bike is a '93 K11RS. All last summer I dealt with a flashing ABS light while I rode. I finally got around to the diagnostic test and read an 1133...No signal from Hall Sensor #2. At first I was curious about this result, because the bike had performed fine all along and never showed signs of trouble. |
No,
There is no correlation between the Hall Sensor and the ABS. The Motronic and the ABS are NOT connected.
1133 (if you read through the diagnostic notes) can be a spurious error. If the #2 sensor was failing, you would not have spark from cylinders 2&3. That would be pretty obvious. Did you check to see what your ABS thought was failing? http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2110
Mick _________________ Mick McKinnon
KOG#175
'93 K1100LT, '96 R1100RT, '84 R100RS, 2010 Kawasaki C-14
Tucson, AZ |
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avidfan
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Norwalk, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Mick. Now I'm questioning whether I read a Motronic code or an ABS code. I'll review the ABS procedure again, lift that code and report back. |
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Michael
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 23 Location: WATERFORD, MI
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Avidfan,
I have the same issue currently. I put my 93' RS back together from the winter updates and the same thing is happening to me, same faults. My ABS is blinking and the triangular light in the middle of the counsil, they are blinking together. I performed the suggestions that are recommended and my Motronic faults went off with a 4444 output - no faults stored. I tried the ABS fault codes and I couldn't get anything to read correctly. I don't know if I'm performing the test correctly. I tried to reset the system also and I don't know if I accomplished this or not. Please let me know how your doing to get rid of the irritating flashing.
Michael _________________ Michael
93' K1100RS |
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mike toon Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank CA
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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I've had my `93 LT for less than two weeks and have "reset" the (flashing) ABS a few times now. (Grounding the middle wire and holding down the ABS button) I was warned about the a low battery being the cause. 12.7V off, and 14+V reved up.
I'm ready to put a pushbutton switch under the left panel because I don't think my Interstate battery is old at 3yrs. Starts just fine. I have to remember the radio is still on with the key still in the ignition. I'm not used to locking bars and removing ignition keys..........ever. _________________ Current Bikes
1993 K1100LT
1976 GL1000 Naked
1981 GL1100 Naked
2000 DR650 Dual Sport |
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CheapJapCopy Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, try reseting it first, that works a good percentage of the time. If that fails and you can live without ABS, some black electrical tape makes a fine fit over those bloody annoying flashing red lights. _________________ 1992 K1100RS - Red and gold. |
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bmwmick Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 907 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| mike toon wrote: | | I've had my `93 LT for less than two weeks and have "reset" the (flashing) ABS a few times now. (Grounding the middle wire and holding down the ABS button) I was warned about the a low battery being the cause. 12.7V off, and 14+V reved up. |
Mike,
Have you got a fault code? Low voltage faults on ABS-I bikes are not nearly as common as on ABS-II bikes.
Mick _________________ Mick McKinnon
KOG#175
'93 K1100LT, '96 R1100RT, '84 R100RS, 2010 Kawasaki C-14
Tucson, AZ |
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