| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
PHIL1601UK Big Brick Rider

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: New exhaust on K1100LT (cracked downpipe) |
|
|
Just wondered if anyone has managed to get a cracked downpipe successfully welded, given the grade of S/S?
2nd question - If anyone runs a Remus, how does this change the character of the bike? I really enjoy the sound of the engine and the exhaust note of the factory fitted silencer. _________________
1996 Aspen Silver K1100LTSE - acquired 23/03/07 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
CheapJapCopy Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Berlin, Germany
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
I managed it fine with a local welder in an industrial unit. Is it cracked where it joins the silencer? _________________ 1992 K1100RS - Red and gold. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BlackHoof Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 302 Location: Near Duluth, Mn.
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Howdy from the midwest,
My bike came with a Remus pipe & most of the time I find it to
be an okay alternative to the steathy stocker. If you ride with
the hard bags installed there seems to be a louder resonance
which can be annoying, & slower in town speeds seem to cause
a louder drone than I'd like. But, if you want to exibit some
hooligan type youthful exuberance you can grab a handful &
let em rap. I doubt that I would have spent the money for this
exhaust system, but since it came with the bike I'm ok with it. _________________ Kent
'93 K1100LT- Blurple Colored
Lucky # 887
'27 Bugatti Replica/Kit Car-Dark Purple
'05 Suzuki Brugman/Russell Seat... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Moondog Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Blackhoof, I had mine welded twice and cracked again. Said to hell with it and put on a Remus. As far as sound is concerned, if it don't sound like a Harley, I am happy. I don't put too much into what the bike sounds like. We are riding not making records (or CD's for the younger crowd)  _________________ "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges"!
I like the social aspect of riding. Rally's, socializing, drinking beer, fartin' and carrying on.
2004 R1150RS
1996 K1100RS (moved on to new home) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
duckbubbles Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 361 Location: Austin, Texas, USA
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would rather have the quiet of a stock pipe. But after the FOURTH weld on mine, I put a Remus revolution pipe on. Don't worry about the cracking anymore, but I'm not in love with the sound. It's tolerable.
Frank _________________ 85 K100/1100RS, 321,000 miles, 25 years
96 Ducati 900SS/SP, sold it
05 R1200ST, 35,000 miles, 5 years
400,000 BMW miles |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
|
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I like the Staintunes on my bikes. I don't notice an increase in noise over stock - though there might be a little. I checked their site - doesn't look like they make them for our Ks anymore though.
But the best part is getting the rear wheel off of the RS without having to remove the whole friggin' exhaust assembly - just the can. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Moondog Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
|
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Flying Duck wrote: |
But the best part is getting the rear wheel off of the RS without having to remove the whole friggin' exhaust assembly - just the can. |
Ditto, Ihad to do that just last week. Sweet. _________________ "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges"!
I like the social aspect of riding. Rally's, socializing, drinking beer, fartin' and carrying on.
2004 R1150RS
1996 K1100RS (moved on to new home) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Tim (Midland Section) Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 960 Location: Pinxton, Nottingham, England.
|
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: New exhaust on K1100LT (cracked downpipe) |
|
|
| PHIL1601UK wrote: | | Just wondered if anyone has managed to get a cracked downpipe successfully welded, given the grade of S/S? |
Last year, a mate who had gone down the R route gave me a 1/2" thick bit of wood with 4 1 1/4" holes equispaced, "whats that for?" I asked, "you'll need it soon" said he. Glad I had it too, along with a BIG Jubilee (don't know American Equivalent) clip to pull all the pipes together near the weld area. Probably, the reason for failures after re-weld, is that the pipes were not aligned before being glued. A few degrees / thou out & the stress will cause a short time before another failure. Only time will tell if my repair is any different. When my son took it to his "expert" the chap found other pipes showed fractures when it was warmed up. If you do go down the welding route, make sure they have Stainless experience.
HTH _________________ Regards Tim,
Grey haired riders don't get that way by pure luck
1996 Guzzi Cali3 LAPD
1972 750 Commando
G6HRN
#485 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PHIL1601UK Big Brick Rider

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hi folks,
Thanks for the interesting responses, I had a feeling that the remus might be louder than the stock,and I do find the engine note quite sweet as it is. New stock from a dealer retails at just over £700.00, a 2nd used unit around £200.00. It's 12 year old bike, but for the pleasure it brings, worth every penny that I spend. Thanks again guys. _________________
1996 Aspen Silver K1100LTSE - acquired 23/03/07 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
CheapJapCopy Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Berlin, Germany
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: New exhaust on K1100LT (cracked downpipe) |
|
|
| Tim (Midland Section) wrote: | | ..along with a BIG Jubilee (don't know American Equivalent) clip to pull all the pipes together near the weld area. |
I'm glad you said that, because I put one on mine too, after advice from someone who'd seen a few cracked welds in his time. Here's hoping it works  _________________ 1992 K1100RS - Red and gold. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
mnb Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 660 Location: San Jose, CA
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Moondog wrote: | We are riding not making records (or CD's for the younger crowd)  |
That's changed already. It's MP3s now.
Thing is, they still record the stuff before it's made into whatever release package (CD, MP3, etc)
I still call em albums. While most people think that refers to vinyl, it doesn't. A photo album is a book that is a collection of photos. An audio album is just a collection of recordings. That's my take anyways.
</hijack>
I've considered going with a Remus for a while, but my stock exhaust is still working fine, although some pitting/corrosion has occurred on the can. It's mostly hidden by the saddlebag on the LT anyways.
I saw a vid on youtube I think of a K bike with a remus and it definitely sounded louder, but nice. They make two different cans, street and sport. The street one is quieter. I don't know which one was in the vid... _________________ M N B
1997 BMW K1100LT ABS Special Edition
2003 Husqvarna TE610e
2007 Harley Davidson Road King
2009 BMW F800GS
2011 Husqvarna TE310
2014 Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak MNB Edition |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Moondog Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mnb wrote: | | Moondog wrote: | We are riding not making records (or CD's for the younger crowd)  |
That's changed already. It's MP3s now.
"Thing is, they still record the stuff before it's made into whatever release package (CD, MP3, etc)
I still call em albums. While most people think that refers to vinyl, it doesn't. A photo album is a book that is a collection of photos. An audio album is just a collection of recordings. That's my take anyways."
What ever, we're just riding And it don't sound like a Harley so I'm happy.  |
_________________ "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges"!
I like the social aspect of riding. Rally's, socializing, drinking beer, fartin' and carrying on.
2004 R1150RS
1996 K1100RS (moved on to new home) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Adrian Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 98 Location: Weston super Mare, Somerset, UK
|
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tim and Phil1601UK (good to see someone else from Bristol here ) where is this big jubilee clip mounted, any pictures? Sounds like a worthwhile preventative measure.
Adrian _________________ Adrian in Somerset, UK
K1100LT SE
145,000 miles and counting
https://sites.google.com/site/worlestone/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
PHIL1601UK Big Brick Rider

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi Adrian,
Had a quick look at your site - your KLT is the spit of mine - mine's a '96 model with 34500 on the clock at present. Off to Yorkshire this weekend, me and the bike, heaven, and the SatNav for directions. Have you been to a local meet yet? I keep intending to - one day.
Anyway back to the matter in question - I'm thinking if I can get a used exhaust, renew the studs and bolts, well not me, I don't have the wherewithall, but there is a guy in Cardiff who advertises in the journal. Better option than a Remus I think, and the new stock item is just over 700 quid.
Have a good weekend guys, happy and safe motorcycling.
Phil. _________________
1996 Aspen Silver K1100LTSE - acquired 23/03/07 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Adrian Mad Brick Rider

Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 98 Location: Weston super Mare, Somerset, UK
|
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
I've made it to one or two meetings in the last 8 years, but keep meaning to get to more and out more as well.
Mike Pearce is the independent BMW tech in Cardiff, very good and a lot cheaper that Bath Rd! Just a bit further to travel.
Adrian _________________ Adrian in Somerset, UK
K1100LT SE
145,000 miles and counting
https://sites.google.com/site/worlestone/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chopper_harris Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Nr Wigan, UK
|
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Guys
Any repair on the 4-1 cluster will have limited success due to the initial factory fabrication.
The 4 pipes are mounted in a jig, which simulates the cyl head (one of the team mentioned a wooden block, to do just this )
The open end of the 4 pipes will be welded together, and the central space puddled to form a single mass.
OO
OO
This region is impossible to repair, without opening the muffler itself.
Tacking up the outer areas of the pipes only solves 1/3 of the problem.
The only effective way to stop the pipes cracking again is to weld a 2"x1" gusset along each pair of pipes, upstream of the collector box.
My exhaust is knackered, but I picked up a tidy, solid unit on eBay for £40.
I plan to cut the old unit open, and see what is going on inside. The aim is to clean up the 4 pipes, and fabricate a new 4-1 collector pipe.
Similar to the Suzuki Bandit, this gives me a range of muffler options with a standard collector.
Well, that is the theory - let's see how this progresses  _________________ C1 200 (2001)
R100 RS (1990)
NSU Quickly N (1964)
Honda 400/4 F1 (1977)
MotoGuzzi 1000C (1978)
Suzuki TL 1000 R (1999)
Kawasaki KLV1000 (2005)
K12R Sport (2007) - Wifeys |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Geoffm
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
|
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: Welding the exhaust |
|
|
This is how I fixed mine:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~gmerryweather/BMW/Repairing%20BMW%20exhaust.html
if you want to see what is inside the join...
Like many others, mine cracked at the collector, and welding didn't work for long. I cut the headers off and welded on 4 stubs of SS tubing to form a slip fit joint. Seems to have fixed it, and it hasn't broken again.
Geoff |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chopper_harris Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Nr Wigan, UK
|
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
Geoff
Outstanding job - You have appx 1mm gap between the old pipes and the boss, which is spot-on.
I had been looking to buy four s/s pipes with a split at the end and clamp welded on, but clearly the gungum method works well.
I've been a MIG (GMAW) man for the past 20 years, but I'm tempted to buy a TIG. With the cost of a roll of stainless MIG wire plus a cylinder of Argon, it makes sense to finally upgrade.
If the Tuttle's can do it, anyone can
Thanks for the excellent shots. _________________ C1 200 (2001)
R100 RS (1990)
NSU Quickly N (1964)
Honda 400/4 F1 (1977)
MotoGuzzi 1000C (1978)
Suzuki TL 1000 R (1999)
Kawasaki KLV1000 (2005)
K12R Sport (2007) - Wifeys |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RJTrucker Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 234 Location: Central NJ
|
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: K1100LT exhaust |
|
|
I do have a stock K1100LT exhaust I am selling to replace anyones that is cracked. This exhaust does not have a spot for an O2 sensor. It was from a 1993 K1100LT. I am not sure which had and didnt have O2 sensors in them. I also dont know if you can remove the O2 sensor if the bike was originally equiped with one. _________________ Ron
1993 K11LT
1985 K100RS with over 100K on it
1985 K100RS Luftmiester Turbo Work in progress (any help is appreciated)
1974 R90/6 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Tim (Midland Section) Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 960 Location: Pinxton, Nottingham, England.
|
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Adrian wrote: | Tim and Phil1601UK (good to see someone else from Bristol here ) where is this big jubilee clip mounted, any pictures? Sounds like a worthwhile preventative measure. Adrian |
Didn't leave it on, it was just to hold the pipes in place whilst welded. It was about an inch forward of where the pipes meet the silencer (muffler)
As for going to meets, just been to Ecclefechan camping weekend & intend to be at the National rally in the Cotswolds at August Bank Holiday. _________________ Regards Tim,
Grey haired riders don't get that way by pure luck
1996 Guzzi Cali3 LAPD
1972 750 Commando
G6HRN
#485 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|