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Stoked Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While searching for an online source for those little screw on caps that I'm not going to get on my new spark plugs, I came across this Craigslist rant that "crack"ed me up.

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/27499971.html

I still haven't found a source for those caps though, anyone have any ideas? I guess maybe I'll just taken them off the old plugs.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the Bosch plugs have removable ones. I'd stop by some local auto or small engine mechanic shops to try to track some down. Or buy four of the cheapest spark plugs you can find that have them.

Nice CL post you found. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skdonlan wrote:
While searching for an online source for those little screw on caps that I'm not going to get on my new spark plugs, I came across this Craigslist rant that "crack"ed me up.

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/27499971.html

I still haven't found a source for those caps though, anyone have any ideas? I guess maybe I'll just taken them off the old plugs.


Steve - Drake is right - the Bosch plugs don't have the caps - that's why I said you have to buy cheap throw away plugs to get the caps for your expensive, super good plugs that don't come with caps.

Unless you get lucky and find a motogeezer working at some repair shop who's been saving them for years and has a whole bucket full...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, find you local small engine shop and look thru their old plug bucket. You know the plugs they pull out that are the wrong ones for the engine that they are in, cause the owner didn't know what he was putting in.


DAMHIK Rolling Eyes

or like Jim said, find some cheap ones at the local department store.
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Phil Marvin
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Steve,
The last time I used NGK plugs on my K1100LT, before I started using Autolites, I had the same problem. I went to a local store - Auto Zone, Pep Boys, etc. - explained my problem and asked if they had any of the caps. They did and gave me the 4 I needed. Ask at the parts stores; you might get lucky as I did.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips, it just seems you'd be able to buy something like that seperately if they don't come on those plugs.

Would my old plugs have them? I can just use those.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF your old plugs are not Bosch, or if they are NGK or some other plug that has a twist off cap...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my plugs the other day, got them installed and finally had a chance to go for a ride today.

Overall I'd say I'm pleased with them. The bike is running a good bit smoother, especially at the higher RPM's. It seems to have just a bit more umpf, especially when in the lower gears, nothing dramatic, just seems a little more responsive.

My main hope was for more smoothness and I'd say it has smoothed things nicely.

I don't really care about MPG as I don't do serious miles, but if it saves a few miles, that’s a bonus.

Negatives; price. I paid $32.95 for the set (incl. shipping), and then had to find some cheap plugs with screw off caps. The auto parts store guy looked at me like I was crazy when I asked for some cheap plugs with screw off caps. He couldn't find any, anywhere in the whole store. He finally gave up after searching and opening boxes for 15 minutes. Then the next day I stopped in our local Cycle Gear store just to kill some time and asked if they had spark plugs. They had some NGK's with the screw off caps for $2.99. I didn't feel like going to another auto store, so I bought them there.

So at $11 a pop total cost each, certainly not a bargain. But with the miles I do, they'll last for many years, so if it makes my bike run smoother and therefore more comfortable on the hands and wrist, it's worth it to me.

I'll damn sure hold onto the little caps the next time I get a set!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NGK site says that the part number is DR7EA. Is this NOT the ones that some of you guys are running?

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/motorcycles/step4.asp?id=461&type=reg
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DR7EAs are regular ole spark plugs, not iridium ones.

(I'm gonna zap that other thread you started since you're continuing here.)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$32.95 free shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-PACK-NGK-Spark-Plugs-Aprilia-K1100LT-93-97-/180535704141?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a08c43a4d
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAPA carries them for a decent price. That's where I get mine now. Some stores have them in stock, some don't but if you order online they should be in the store the next day. Or call the nearest NAPA store.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked as an auto mechanic all of the Bosch plugs had the caps, and we would have to remove them for some of the foreign makes. (VW springs to mind, but I may be mistaken) So for a while I had a lot of them in my toolbox, then I threw them away. Check with your local auto repair guy he may have them.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, All,
I have a few of the caps, maybe 6 or 8, and if someone needs 3 (K75) or 4 (K100/1100/1200), let me know. I use Autolite plugs in my K75 bikes, so each time I change plugs, I have 3 more caps available for someone.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the caps off my Bosh plugs to work with my NGKs. Now that I like the plugs, I want to buy 4 more as backups. I now again have a cap problem. Where can I get them for the NGKs.
Are all screw-on/screw-off caps alike or are they shaped differently or even threaded differently?
Where to buy them?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered these. Hope they come with caps. Rolling Eyes

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150582897936&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT


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If you know about precision and performance for your motorcycle and ATV, then you know about NGK spark plugs. NGK/NTK technical ceramics is the leading manufacturer of automotive, ATV and motorcycle spark plugs - NGK plugs are OEM equipment in more vehicle models than any other brand.

Designed to US, European and Japanese OEM engine specifications, NGK’s Iridium series power-sport plugs deliver enhanced ignition efficiency and superior engine performance across MX/off-road, highway, street-race and track applications.

aNGK Laser Iridium and Iridium IX features:

Precision Laser-welded Iridium center electrodes – 6X harder than platinum
Precision alumina ceramic insulators
Corrosion-resistant shell with triple high pressure gas seals
Screw or snap-on electrical connectors
Pre-installed metal compression gaskets
Copper-core electrode cooling
Application specific heat-range design
OEM approved – Designed for high performance engines


a Benefits of NGK Iridium Series Spark Plugs:

Improved cold-starting performance
Smooth firing at high or low engine RPM
Reduced electrode erosion and long service life
Enhanced ignition efficiency and fuel economy
Superior anti-fouling characteristics
Reduced hot-spark firing voltage requirements
Maximum engine horsepower and torque
Superior throttle-response, acceleration and WOT performance

Compatible with aftermarket ECU/ECM engine controllers and AFR monitors (Dynojet Power Commander III, WEGO II, AEM, Drivven, PLX, PowerDEX. Original equipment in Aprilla, BMW, Cagiva, Ducati, Honda, Husqvarna, Indian, Kawasaki, KTM, Moto Guzzi, Norton, Suzuki, Triumph, Victory and Yamaha. Equivalent/upgrade replacement for AC Delco, Autolite, Bosch, Champion, Denso and Motocraft plugs.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The photo shows them without.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Screw or snap-on electrical connectors


This gives me hope. If not I'll try the ones off my old plugs.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They probably mean "threaded electrical connectors".

For your sake, I hope not. Please let us know what they send you.
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