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grant93 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 238 Location: Victoria - Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: Tyre or Tire Size? |
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Gidday Folks
Just wondering about rear wheel and tyre size in that I have read where the bigger 18 " and wider 4.5" K1100RS rim is fitted to the K1100LT
Have many on you done this simple conversion and what are the benefits in doing so, is it more tyre choice and cheaper rear tyres?
Does is just bolt straight on and is there ample clearance with the wider tyre?
What are the handling pro's and cons?
Any info would be fantastic _________________ Cheers Grant
1994 K1100RS
1981 R100RS
1978 R100RS
1928 Chevrolet tourer
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carp Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Posts: 159 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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More options for tires. _________________ 93 K1100LT
07 Bandit 1250S |
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RAL88 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 733 Location: New Mexico Land of Enchantment and 365 days of riding USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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My RS wheel fits on my LT without removing the exhaust but I have to deflate the tire to take it out or put it in. _________________ Rich
"If it ain't broke, take it apart and make it work better"
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grant93 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 238 Location: Victoria - Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Gidday Fellas,
Thanks for the quick replies so after reading I quickly brought one from Germany off eBay for $120 Aussie dollars delivered to my door off a K1100RS which has done 48,000 km
Google translator is a marvellous thing!
Any preferences for a tyre to suit? _________________ Cheers Grant
1994 K1100RS
1981 R100RS
1978 R100RS
1928 Chevrolet tourer
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carp Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Posts: 159 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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PR3 works well for me. I may put on a BT23 to see if I get more miles. I have been averaging about 8000 on PR3's. They handle well in all kinds of weather. _________________ 93 K1100LT
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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RAL88 wrote: | My RS wheel fits on my LT without removing the exhaust but I have to deflate the tire to take it out or put it in. |
Rich,
The RS wheel on my RS needs deflation. a soapy solution and lots of wiggling to get the wheel/tire off my bike. While NOT pulling the bike off its centerstand....DAHIK _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
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RAL88 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 733 Location: New Mexico Land of Enchantment and 365 days of riding USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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SugarHillCTD wrote: | RAL88 wrote: | My RS wheel fits on my LT without removing the exhaust but I have to deflate the tire to take it out or put it in. |
Rich,
The RS wheel on my RS needs deflation. a soapy solution and lots of wiggling to get the wheel/tire off my bike. While NOT pulling the bike off its centerstand....DAHIK |
I haven't had to use soapy water but it does take a lot of wiggling. _________________ Rich
"If it ain't broke, take it apart and make it work better"
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'96' K1100LT-SE
'97' R850GS-R |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Grant,
I am also currently using Michelin PR3 front and rear. Seem to be holding up well.
They need just a bit more effort to get to turn than a sport tyre (like the Pilot Powers) but that is what we want with these bikes, right? _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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Sonu Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 395 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Tyre or Tire Size? |
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grant93 wrote: | cheaper rear tyres? |
cheapest to stick with the stock rims
I've used Michelin PR3's on STOCK rims for the K1100LT.
110/80ZR-18 on the front and 150/70ZR-17 on the rear.
Yes, its an "off-size" tire but works great.
-s- _________________ 1997 K1100LT "Ziggy" _GarminGPS_Corbin saddle_K Guards _Hyperlights_Fog lights_Eastern Beaver Relays_Cee Bailey_4"speakers_Michelin PR4's_MoS2_Spiegler lines_TPMS_VDO
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3119 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I've got stock LT rims on my '95, but not standard exhaust. I've got a Remus system.
To get the wheel/tire out, I've got to remove the exhaust can. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
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E T Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 265 Location: Colbert Wa
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Did the same with mine, Only prob on the rear is as stated, You have to deflate the tire to remove or install it, It will give you more choices of tires and the wider rim for more stability on the tire, I use to have the 150 on my LT 17" rim and at high speeds was just not real stable.
I also changed over to the RS wheel on the front, Only problems were more room between the fender and tire, and putting on the calipers were harder due to the smaller rim, but you just have to spread the pads out further to get them to slip on as the caliper will be hitting the rim, just be patient, I checked and the RS and the LT use the same calipers, so it will work..
As far as handling, It is one of the best things i did, Noticed a difference and it was very positive. Also, the wheels are the same on a R model in those years i found out, so check it out as you may be able to find more of them and cheaper.. _________________ 1993 K1100LT
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10085 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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While it is true (to my knowledge) that there is only one radial tire in the factory size for the stock K11LT rear wheel (Avon AV46 140/80R 17) the good news is that it's a very good tire. I've run them on several of my bikes and will buy more in the future when they need to be replaced.
Here's some reviews of the AV46: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/5983/i/avon-av46-azaro-sport-touring-rear-tire
If you run a two piece aftermarket exhaust then all you have to do to remove the rear wheel is take the exhaust can off. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
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grant93 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 238 Location: Victoria - Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Gidday Fellas,
Firstly thanks for all the replies and there is certainly a mixed bag of ideas, suggestions, favourite set ups and combinations, all well worthy of a good long hard think...
TBH I am now leaning towards keeping the wheels and tyres to original specs if I can and if the tyres are available in my area, I shall ring around and check that out, but what swayed me back to the original setup??
Well the fact that the rear wheel will not come off as easily, deflating the tyre, soap, etc is a pain in the ass plus being one to inspect things often, plus not to mention road side flats, if I had to do that each time I wanted the wheel off, well to me it is a step backwards as simplicity is what it is all about at the end of the day.
Maybe I jumped the gun with the rim purchase at this stage, always a bull at the gate with purchases! but it doesn't hurt to have a good spare hanging in the shed or I could off load it over here in oz and make a dollar.
Once again thats for your comments and replies _________________ Cheers Grant
1994 K1100RS
1981 R100RS
1978 R100RS
1928 Chevrolet tourer
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grant93 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 238 Location: Victoria - Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Gidday Folks,
Rang a tyre shop in Melbourne and for a Metzeler Marathon 140/80/17 to suit the original rear rim $245 fitted.. _________________ Cheers Grant
1994 K1100RS
1981 R100RS
1978 R100RS
1928 Chevrolet tourer
www.montythe1928chevrolet.blogspot.com.au |
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acftfliehr Big Brick Rider
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 62
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10085 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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As I'm sure many others here will vouch for, you should give serious consideration to running radial tires. The improvement is handling is quite significant. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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whyoldbill Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 440 Location: in the boonies, northwest of Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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grant93 wrote: | Gidday Folks,
Rang a tyre shop in Melbourne and for a Metzeler Marathon 140/80/17 to suit the original rear rim $245 fitted.. |
That is a bias ply tire in that size. I ran a set of those on mine once. Lousy in the rain and not all that sticky in the curves.
I concur with the Duck. Go with radials, you will not regret it.
I run the Michelin PR2s and can't say enough good things about them!
That's my $.02 worth.
Bill _________________ '02 - GL1800
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3119 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running PR'2 front and the Avon AV46 rear. Both stock LT sizes.
Am very happy with this setup. Some have gone to the PR'3 front, but I haven't as yet.
I would much rather have the extra sticky of the radial over the extra miles from a bias ply. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10085 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Also consider a BT-023 front. I'm running BT-023s front and rear on my LT and a BT-023 front/Avon rear on my K75 find them to be every bit as good as the Michelin PR2s and they cost a fair amount less. I know that Bridgestone has had some dogs earlier in the BT-02x series but the BT-023 certainly isn't one of them. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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BobZ(IL) Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 651 Location: Bourbonnais, IL
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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+1 on the Bridgestone BT-023/Avon combo. I'd like to hear from a couple of the hot-shoe magazine testers after a couple of laps on my LT. So much better handling with radials. _________________ '93 K1100LT
'78 R100S
'05 R1200GS
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