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Shoganai
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: K1100RS Frame Slides Project Reply with quote

So I'm thinking I can design frame slider for a K1100RS.

Or at least I'm gonna utterly trash two partially trashed mid-fairing trying.

Left side showing engine mount.





Right side showing engine mount.













Left side.



Right side.







K1200S slider test fit. Threads are not long enough nor is the shank.




But you get the idea.




I'll work on getting accurate numbers then have a local machine shop make a pair of threaded shanks just like the K1200S. Then I'll just buy the black slider part to put on them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

G'Morning Shogs...

Hey, you know I'm slow.... but just what is the end result of this effort ??
Can you 'splain it to me ??

Love you......// Ernie in NH
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey shogs baby...WTF are you talking about? Frame slider???? Huh?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They might be better known in some parts of the world as Oggy Knobs - http://www.kenma.com.au/oggy_knobs.html - something that hits the deck before the expensive parts of the bike Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Morning Ernie :bighugandkiss

drikko :smooch :raisedglass

Yes, robleud, that's it. Very Happy





I have scowered the Net since 2000 and they just do not exist.

We all know these bikes f'ing love to lay the hell where ever and when ever the mood hits them, or when we air dab.

So guessed it can't really be all that hard to make a pair.


Some things to consider:

Left and right are not the same by a few inches, therefore I'll need to design one for each side.

Next, note where the round part of the shank engages with the engine...I will be enlarging the mating face of the shank to make more contact with the engine. That will allow the impact force to be spead out, reducing the risk of failure the shaft (think snap in half) and reduce the risk of cracking the 'ear' where the bolt passes through.


At this point I'm gathering materials to made two perfect modles to take to the machine shop from which they will made the proto types.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy !!

Ohhhhh.... of course, OGGEY KNOBS !! Why didnt you say so ??

Regards all......// Ernie in NH
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'cause I didn't Orgy Knobs were for bikes. Embarassed Twisted Evil Laughing
Unless...well...there's always a 'break in' time.

Ernie-NH wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy !!

Ohhhhh.... of course, OGGEY KNOBS !! Why didnt you say so ??

Regards all......// Ernie in NH

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwen:

With 7 or so inches of leverage between the impact point and where the bolt enters the mounting point on the head I'd be willing to bet that a getoff with any speed at all will cause the bolt to break off at it's base or, at the very least, bend quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy !!

Hi Shogs....

IF you'll note: There is a slight spelling difference between
"Orgy" and "Oggy"... The first is something we ALL enjoy and the second is something we'd rather not have to employ !! As for me.... I'll take any ration of the first I can get.... how about you ??

Love you too......// Ernie in NH
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Ernie, that;s you scratched off the invite list to anything that starts with "Hungry"......

Hey shogs, I assume this is to make the oil/water pump easier to get at?



And then give us the bird????? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



Sheesh it took me ages to find those pics!!!!

http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Ok Drikko man...

She started it... not me ! Oggy Knobs or not, REALLY gonna be pissed if this ruins my chances for an invite to "Hungry Goanna 1"

Have fun down under...and RIDE safe !!

Regards...........// Ernie in NH
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's start planning for 'Hungry Drop Bear 1" Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking: on the K11LT's, the case guards (which do the same thing in the event of a tipover) are mounted with breakaway assemblies, so that if the forces are too great on the bolt, it shears at the break-away point, not where the bolt mounts into the engine.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robleyd wrote:
Let's start planning for 'Hungry Drop Bear 1" Twisted Evil


We could have the Hungry Prawn or Hungry Crocodile, but do agree Drop Bear would be more appropriate.

So where is halfway between Brisvegas and crow town? Looks like Cobar might be about halfway.

So we could have a K11 get together, you bring your trumpy and I'll bring the Laverda..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know that about the LT.

I've also concidered creating a "Y" off of the frame that is directly above the engine mounting bolt but can't wrap my mind around how to do that.

Suggestions are welcome, just sayin'.



Me!? Surprised

Start somethin'?? Embarassed

Naw...I wouldn't do anything like that Ernie... Twisted Evil
(ditto on the enjoy vs deploy


drinkko...thank's for the reminder pics. I have to use "Favorites" to keep track of old threads, even my own. Cool

Duck, I have the same concerns. However, all the times I've dropped mine it's been slow or no speed drops.

ljjohns wrote:
Just thinking: on the K11LT's, the case guards (which do the same thing in the event of a tipover) are mounted with breakaway assemblies, so that if the forces are too great on the bolt, it shears at the break-away point, not where the bolt mounts into the engine.

Larry Johnson
El Paso Tx

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoganai wrote:
Suggestions are welcome, just sayin'.


Don't drop your bike.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:snort

Loves ya sweetie.

Flying Duck wrote:
Shoganai wrote:
Suggestions are welcome, just sayin'.


Don't drop your bike.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may turn out to be good "Karma" - once mounted your bike may very well never fall down again!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, you know it's me right, Gwen, The Queen of horizonal bikes. Embarassed

Trust me, when I go to HM6 it WILL be dropped.
Hell why stop now, I'm 5 out of 5. Shocked



dave n wrote:
They may turn out to be good "Karma" - once mounted your bike may very well never fall down again!!

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The long road is a rainbow and the pot of gold lies there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shogs

Kenma don't specifically list Oggys for the classic Ks but it might be worth an email to see if they can put something together for you.

Of course with the $A being so strong just now they might be a bit expensive over your side of the world Smile
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