K11 Owners Group

jpberens1994K1100RS · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: wiring

There are much better tech wiz's here than I, Drake is stellar with electro gizmo's
I am KISS all the way.

Kinda crude yes, but I run right off the positive terminal. Lights & heated jacket liner is all I have on the bike, but I am thinking of adding an aux fuse box for more stuff.
I just tie wrap everything to the frame and take my time routing it so it's, out of sight and protected, AND I can access the inline fuse easy. I used the master ground under the tank to for all the grong wires on the CATZ harness. Wrapped up the excess harness, tie wrapped it, and nested it in there.
Ran the orange wire that powers the relay all the way back to rear running light. It's a fine wire, so I just pulled off the wire connector at the terminal inside the rear light. There is a small round hole in the center of the terminal male tang. The wire minus 2 strands fits right in. Strip off only about 3/16" of the sheath. Put on a dab of dielectric grease, plug the connector back on right over the wire. Fits good and tight, all set to go.
I also use dielectic grease on ALL the other conectors to keep out moisture and protect them from corrosion.
In my shock post you can see the orange wire along the fram rail. I'm going to tuck that in higher and more secure soon.
Take your time, route carefully, test full steering swing before tie wrapping anything off.
Do it once right, and it'll be well worth the time as you won't need to worry about it.
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1993 K1100RS that I'd rather be riding FAST!
2014 Moto Guzzi Norge

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject:

I run my headlight and driving/fog light relays from the big red wire on the starter relay in the right rear corner of the relay box. (I'd advise you to disconnnect the battery before doing this stuff. Make sure you have the radio code if it's an LT.)

The wiring that came with the CATZ lights does not include a relay I don't think. (I did my own wiring.)

I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND using a relay for these lights since they draw 140 watts (2x70W)

Place an inline fuse between the power tap and the relay. I'd get one with at least 14 gauge wiring. Use a 15 or 20 amp fuse. Connect the output from the inline fuse to the 30 terminal on the relay (30 is input power for the lights)

Note: IF you want to make them so that they only go on with the high or low beam then tap into the white (high beam) or yellow(low beam) wire from the left switch wiring and hook that up to terminal 86 of the relay instead of contant power in the prior paragraph. (I have mine wired to the low beam.)

If you want to them to run with either high or low beam but so that they turn off when the bike is turned off then tap 86 into the switched wire on the alarm wiring harness connector which is an extra white round connector floating around in the relay box.

Hook the 87 terminal of the relay up to the positive leads for the lights. Yes, ground them at the main grounding point under the tank.

I would also recommend using a BMW switch - both for cosmetic and waterproofiness reasons. The swtich that comes with the CATZ lights is meant to be mounted inside of a car and I suspect not very waterproof.
Wire the hazard switch up to gound and the 85 terminal on the relay. When that switxh completes the circuit it will trigger the relay.

You can buy an emergency flasher switch for this purpose. (BMW part 61311459305) You can replace the little graphic insert with a fog lamp insert (part 61311459359) for $4.

For some reason, light manufacturers like CATZ and PIAA use WHITE covering for their wires - YUK! I buy heat shrink tubing from Fry's in 3-4 foot sections and use that instead.

Since you're going to be doing this it is also an excellent opportunity to add headlight relays if your bike doesn't have them already.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject:

Thanks Duck, that was what I was looking for. I like the idea of using a BMW switch, I could replace my dummy one (for grips I believe, which I don't have.)

Why add relays to the stock headlight? The whole relay thing has always been a bit of a mystery to me, no comprende?
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Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject:

owrstrich · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject:

the catz lights come with a relay...

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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject:

You're right. I didn't really look closely at the CATZ stuff since I just used what I already had installed for my prior WallyWorld fog lghts.

A 20 amp in-line fuse too. I've been running mine on 15 and that seems to work.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

jpberens1994K1100RS · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: Relays

+1 on the head light relay.

I bought the one from Eastern Beaver with the high temp plug connector.
Everything fit nice & neat in a corner of the fairing.
Added a PIAA 100/110 Super White bulb at the same time.

Not 24 hr endurance racing bright, but between that & the CATZ lights I can see very well.
BTW.
Absolutely no one has flashed me with their brights yet. Got the look over from a couple of LEO's, but no troubles.

Once again, a huge thank you to the site hosts and all the great idea's shared here by the members.
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1993 K1100RS that I'd rather be riding FAST!
2014 Moto Guzzi Norge

Stoked Steve · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:53 am Post subject:

jpberens1994K1100RS · Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: BMW switch

Yeah, you gotta pay if you want to play.

Maybe some one out there has a used switch for you?

I thought my set up, looked OK, not super cool or stock, but OK.

Plus, you can try it that way and if you just can't stand it then all you out is your time and a switch blank.
I've been through a couple of down pours and bike washings, still works well.
If you want, send the new CATZ switch and the BMW blank to me and I'll fit the switch to it, use black silicone to seal it like I did mine, and send it back to you. Gratis for a KOG fellow rider.

Best of luck, I REALLY love these lights. They have saved my countless frustrations in just a few short weeks. Yet again, on the high way today, when I came upon a left lane parker. Less than 5 seconds of me hanging in his driver side mirror has him moving over. Before I could tap th ehorn, flash the bright, nothing. Just 5 secs of the CATZ moves em on over.
Very sweet!
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1993 K1100RS that I'd rather be riding FAST!
2014 Moto Guzzi Norge

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject:

After doing 500+ miles of interstate slab last Friday I found yet another reason to love these lights. People who aren't members of the LLOC notice you when you're farther back and tend to be out of the left lane by the time you get there. This means less disengaging/re-engaging the cruise control.

(LLOC = Left Lane Owners Club - those people who sit in the left hand lane at whatever speed and refuse to be polite drivers who move to the right to let faster vehicles by.)
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Stoked Steve · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

jpberens1994K1100RS · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: CATZ ambers

+1

Oh yeah! I get most people moving over WAY fast now. Not certain WTF they are confusing me with, but I don't care.
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1993 K1100RS that I'd rather be riding FAST!
2014 Moto Guzzi Norge

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: CATZ ambers

jpberens1994K1100RS · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: Watt draw

My 93 RS has the 50 AMP alt.
Built in Oct of that year. U sure U have the lower power Alternator?
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1993 K1100RS that I'd rather be riding FAST!
2014 Moto Guzzi Norge

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

We cna tell if you give us the last 7 digits of your VIN.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Stoked Steve · Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:54 am Post subject:

I always just assumed all the 93's had the smaller one.

My vin is 6495851 (last 7 digits)
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Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:08 am Post subject:

Oops, I forgot. All RS years came with a 50A alternator. It's only the 93 and earlier model year LTs that had the 32A alternator.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Stoked Steve · Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject:

Sweet, so I have the larger one? Awesome. Bring on the lights!
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Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject:

Yep, you're good. Easy enough to verify as well: The 50A alternator has a black plastic cover on the rear of it.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE