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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, it's called a "BMU" for bulb monitor unit.....
It is supposed to, as the name implies, monitor the brake lamp and light the red warning dash light if the brake lamp fails, or if either of the brake lever switches fail(startup test).

BTW, the BMU does not play well with LED lamps... Drake has written up a procedure to alter or bypass the BMU unit if you use an LED brake lamp.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you have a good German bulb in the brake light socket. I couldn't get Asian bulbs to work on the K. The bulbs were OK - the BMU didn't like them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not getting any warnings on the dash. And German bulbs? Smile I think one of the two connectors related to this have become disconnected.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mechanic figured it out. The rear brake pedal activates the brake light just fine. It's the hand brake that doesn't work, and it makes sense, because that's part of where the bike landed when I dropped it, and the brake mechanism went south too, leaking fluid. He will replace it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BMU:

http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/bmu/bmu.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:

And if you pop the innards out of it (easy to do) and follow that pin it will be connected to a trace on the printed circuit board.


Can you share the "easy to do" instructions to pop the innards of the flasher relay? Mine appears to be welded with ultrasound and the bottom where the connector is appears to be sealed with a black epoxy sealant.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welded with ultrasoujnd? Nah, There's just some expoxy or whatever. Just stick a screwdriver in around the edges and pop it open.

And in case you want to run LED turn signal bulbs you might want to do this while you have it apart:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/ledoemflrelay/ledoemflrelay.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
Welded with ultrasoujnd? Nah, There's just some expoxy or whatever. Just stick a screwdriver in around the edges and pop it open.

And in case you want to run LED turn signal bulbs you might want to do this while you have it apart:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/ledoemflrelay/ledoemflrelay.htm


The case is definitely ultrasound welded around the edges, but you can barely see it. I'll give that a try, but just to see if I can find what failed. I already installed a replacement relay and it works fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it open. The casing is in fact ultrasound welded, rather than gluing the two molded halves together. You were right, the bottom where the connector comes out just had this simple glue. The housing on the connector popped off and I pulled out the board.

The pcb appears to be the same, but with different identifying stencil on the side with the transformer coils. This one has a symbol, then 4D, and below that 754093-A. The most significant difference is the absence of a number of components that are there on the picture on that link you posted. On the front the capacitor at top right is gone, on the back a whole row of what appear to be resistors is gone, among other things.

There's no apparent damage. Would be nice to have a schematic to troubleshoot it. I'll post pics tomorrow.
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