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My heated grip wiring burned up and my bike is a: |
93 K1100LT |
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58% |
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94 K1100LT |
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16% |
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95 K1100LT |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
96 K1100LT |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
97 K1100LT |
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0% |
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93 K1100RS |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
94 K1100RS |
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0% |
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95 K1100RS |
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8% |
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96 K1100RS |
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16% |
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K75/K100 - put year and model in your post |
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0% |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Heated grips poll - Please read thoroughly before answering |
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Since my recent heated grip incident and since this seems to occur MUCH more frequenly on K1100s and virtually never on K75s/K100s, someone has sugested there may have been a bad batch of heated grip wiring used at the factory. In the interest of seeing if that might be true, the purpose of this poll is to see collect some data to if there is any pattern to this problem.
Please only vote in this poll if the heated grip wiring under your tank has melted/burned up. If your heated grips just stopped working on one side or went out for some other or unknown reason then it could be another cause so please don't vote in that situation.
If this ever happened to a K75 or K100 you owned, please check the K75/K100 option and provide the year and model in your post.
(I'm going to make this a sticky and leave it up for a while to see if I can gather enough data to detect a pattern.) _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2330 Location: Twin Lakes Idaho
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Drake, my left burnt due to me standing alongside the bike and absentmindedly turning the grip. Dooh! _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
K11 OG #466 |
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Tim (Midland Section) Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 960 Location: Pinxton, Nottingham, England.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Please add to the poll. "my bike didn't have them as standard" & "my 95 LT never failed". As my 91 didn't, my 95 did & my 97 highline doesn't.
hope this helps the poll. _________________ Regards Tim,
Grey haired riders don't get that way by pure luck
1996 Guzzi Cali3 LAPD
1972 750 Commando
G6HRN
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like 93 was bad year. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bumping so it doesn't get archived. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Jim Site Admin
Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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You still running this poll? _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repairing
1992 K75RTP 46,000
"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed." |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Jim wrote: | You still running this poll? |
Sure, why not? Johny's bike might burn up tomorrow. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Jim Site Admin
Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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HAHAHAHA. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repairing
1992 K75RTP 46,000
"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed." |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Flying Duck wrote: | Looks like 93 was bad year. |
But '93 LT, not '93 RS?
Now from the K11OG spec page (if I am interpreting the #s correctly?) for the year 1993 there were 993 LTs produced vs. 534 RSs- so there is more chance for the LT model to fail since there were more LTs made.
But no RS failures? Probably just a lack of RS owners reporting such.
I obviously did not add my "RS" vote because I have not experienced a failure (yet?) but I do experience an occasional but erratically scheduled blown grip heater circuit fuse (2 in 2007, 3 in 2008, 1 last year- and I rode with the heaters on more last year). _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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did the 93rs even have heated grips as an option? mine has nearly every option available that year (maybe every?) and i don't have them. the stock wiring on something that isn't stock can't fail ... _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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If you ask me, (which BMW never has ) it's not a great design. The low setting runs the current through a resistive wire to reduce the voltage to the grips. The only way for that to dissipate that power is through heat - which ends up melting insulation and causing shorts.
The Symtec design, with separate hi and low heating elements in the grip is better and more or less immune to causing shorts like the OEM stuff can and does. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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RJTrucker Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 234 Location: Central NJ
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:37 am Post subject: 93 K11LT |
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On my 93K11LT the left grip stopped working. When I pulled the tank it was the plug that melted. I replaced the plug with one from an old harness and it started working again. Then it stopped again and I looked and the replacement plug was melted and this time took a few other wires with it. I fixed the damaged wires and now my bike does not have heated grips. I left them umpluged under the tank. _________________ Ron
1993 K11LT
1985 K100RS with over 100K on it
1985 K100RS Luftmiester Turbo Work in progress (any help is appreciated)
1974 R90/6 |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4240 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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supercat1 wrote: | did the 93rs even have heated grips as an option? mine has nearly every option available that year (maybe every?) and i don't have them. the stock wiring on something that isn't stock can't fail ... |
Both the K-RS I've owned- the first (a '94) for a week or so until the dealer bought it back and my current ride (a '93) both had BMW grip heaters with the BMW dashpad switch. I didn't know that it wasn't available on an RS _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10087 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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BTW, you can avoid this happening by never using the heated grips on the low setting. That's the circuit that has the resistive wire that heats up and melts things. If you want to make 100% sure it doesn't happen then cut the orange wire in the heated grips wiring. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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mtnroads Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 281 Location: West Linn, OR
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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My Red 93 RS did NOT have them
My Black 93 RS HAD them. _________________ 2012 R1200RT Midnight Blue
95 K1100LT Graphit (sold)
01 R1100RT Black (sold) |
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exavid Big Brick Rider
Joined: 22 Apr 2014 Posts: 72 Location: Medford, OR
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Good info on keeping the heaters on high. I never thought of it and tended to keeping them on low to prevent overheating. Thanks.
Just as a matter of information my '94LT with 78k miles and my '95LT with 11k miles both had fully functional grip heaters.
I haven't looked into how my C650GT's seat and grip heaters work. I should take a look at the circuit before the warranty runs out. _________________ Paul W.
2013 C650GT
1995 K1100LT
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