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Removal of fuel tank with out fairing removal on a LT

 
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E T
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank with out fairing removal on a LT Reply with quote

I have searched and cant seem to find anything, can anyone tell me if there is a way and how to remove or lift the fuel tank on a Lt with out having to remove any of the fairing?? It seems like there is a bolt holding it down that i cant find, I lifted from the back and it seems like its bolted.. I am replacing the clutch cable is why.. Thanks for any help?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Remove seat

2. Disconnect fuel level sender wiring

3. Remove two clips on the posts at the rear corners of the gas tank

4. Lift up the rear of the tank and pull it back to expose the two hose clamps at the left front of the tank

5. Undo hose clamps and take off fuel lines

It's best to either run the tank low or siphon gas out of it before doing this.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairing removal NOT necessary.
Take off both side panels & raise the seat. look at the rear of the tank underneath. Find two pins that go through rubbers held by the frame. If truly original there will be C clips on these pins. Remove.

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/Diagrams/B0000419.png?v=04302013

Item 15 2 off

If your are sure they are not there, then grab the rear of the tank & yank upwards (no insult intended). Be careful of the cable from the loom which runs into the tank, they are a common failure point.
Once free, ease rear wards to release from front rubbers. Bear in mind that the fuel pipes will impede complete removal. If the tank is 1/4 full or less then It can be hung over the left side with a bungee & a rag to prevent scratching the tank & fairing.

As for replacing the clutch cable, may I suggest you tape the new to the old & pull it through, guiding it past the tight bits. That way you will preserve the smoothest route, as BMW intended.
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Two replies in less than 3/4 hour, not bad eh. Only reason i wasn't first was the length of waffle.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much, I will have to go out and check it out, but first draining the tank some as i what full as i was leaving on a trip when the cable broke, .. Thanks for the replies..
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What cable? If it's the clutch cable then you don't need to remove the tank.

Tie a piece of wire or strong string to the rear of it before pulling it out the front and then use that to pull the new one through
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy All fixed and back together, I had to take tank off as the cable was tied to other wires with a plastic wire tie, But got it all done, Thanks to you guys for all the quick help..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:46 pm    Post subject: brake light Reply with quote

I just became aware that my brake light also stays on,
also a single filament bulb in place,
on a '93 K1100RS,

the front handle / rear pedal contacts are fine as I can cycle through the ABS startup check.

also as per ABS,
for the past three summers the ABS intermittently flashes fail, until the next ignition off cycle, after which it all returns to normal. turning the ignition off on a long stretch of road , and back on for example ...

any ideas ??
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for some reason I find the idea of removing/lifting the tank totally daunting,

I'd like to pass some wiring, check my relays, etc. and I can't wrap my head around the fact it can be not too complicated ...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firecat, the tank removal is very easy, just make sure you are very low on gas, or siphon out what you have in there, that is what i did
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firecat,

At least on the K-RS, removing the fuel tank is pretty easy.

-the two black panels alongside the tank come off.

-then tilt up the seat and find/disconnect the 4 wire plug under the right rear of the tank. (these go to the fuel pump and fuel gauge sending unit)

-tilt up the rear portion of the tank enough to detach the two fuel lines under the left side of the tank- a little fuel will dribble out of the lines.

-now with the rear of the tank still tilted up, wiggle the tank side to side and slide it back. It should now come off in your hands. Done.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not forget to remove the C clips holding the tank down if they are still on there, read above post about how too. That was what had me stumped, once i found out about those, it was super easy and only a little messy.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that's great info thanks,
I want to run some wiring, an EB kit,
and clean and grease all relays, 'cause I have some misbehaving light, ABS, intermitent relay related issues, I think,

can I just lift the tank, or should I remove it.

Phil
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil,

Your job will be MUCH easier if you pull the tank off. Unless you are a proctologist and like to work in very small and dark places....and have VERY small hands. Laughing

Seriously, I don't think that the tank tilts up enough (the top front of the tank will hit the steering head) to do any work under there.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are careful, and have the seat removed, you can pull the fuel tank and set it on the frame rails where the seat sits without of removing the fuel lines. You do have to unplug the electrical connections.
BTDT many times.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott_Anderson wrote:
If you are careful, and have the seat removed, you can pull the fuel tank and set it on the frame rails where the seat sits without of removing the fuel lines. You do have to unplug the electrical connections.
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I don't have to remove the elec connector on mine to balance the tank on the seat rails. Maybe the wires are routed a little different or a wire tie removed somewhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: tank removal K1100RS Reply with quote

Guys/dolls,
A little late on this but I just wanted to say that yes it was a piece of cake, it was just a matter of mind over matter. Even with the tank almost full, pulling it off was no problem.
Thanks for the advice
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I splurged a bit and bought a set of quick disconnects so I don't have to remove the fuel lines, just disconnect them. Makes for very quick and easy tank removal.
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