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martdnc
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 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: AUDIOVOX CRUISE CONTROL |
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Hi,
I have read, and printed out, Duck's articles on installing the audiovox ccs-100 and am excited about installing one on my '95 K-1100 LT but they don't make them anymore and are hard to find. There is occasionally one on ebay but they usually end-up selling for about $250 and who knows what you are really buying unless you have an original to compare it to! Also on ebay is a new model by Audiovox (250-1316) and another which claims to be the exact same item as the old ccs-100 (made in the same factory with all the exact same parts, wire color,etc.) sold by Sun Electronics in Fla.. Has anyone tried installing the new Audiox 250-1316 on their bike? This new model is all electronic with no vacuum required. I am not an electronis guy, but it sounds like it would install just like the way Duck described but without the vacuum.
Please, any advice?
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miKeinWIs
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I installed the old kind 2 yrs ago. Not $85 anymore, of course.
the 1316 "looks" the same except for the vacuum line.
Couldn't find any info - Does it use the speed sensor instead of vacuum??
Not sure if we have the VSS used on cars--might be the big problem.
Someone more knowledgeable may know.
I would find out how it senses the speed before paying that much.
Good luck
Mike
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Scott_Anderson
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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The Vacuum is not used for speed sensing, rather it us used for "pulling" the throttle cable to control the speed.
The speed is "senced" by the CC using a signal from the ign coils(or the tach signal).
I haven't tried to connect to the speedo sensor line, don't know if it would work or not.
The electronic version I presume uses a small electrical servo motor to "pull" the throttle cable for speed control.
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Flying Duck
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| miKeinWIs wrote: | I installed the old kind 2 yrs ago. Not $85 anymore, of course.
the 1316 "looks" the same except for the vacuum line.
Couldn't find any info - Does it use the speed sensor instead of vacuum??
Not sure if we have the VSS used on cars--might be the big problem.
Someone more knowledgeable may know.
I would find out how it senses the speed before paying that much.
Good luck
Mike |
All you need to do is tap into the speedo sensor wires. That works on the CCS-100 anyhow. I played with it on my first install and it worked fine. I decided to just run it from the coil signal though because that's one less pair of connections to fail.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy one of the clones on Fleabay. They look identical to the original and on the off chance that it doesn't work then Fleabay/PayPal pretty much always side with the buyer in a dispute so the risk of losing your money is negligible.
Murph's Kits also sells the clone for $170. http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422
The electronic one will most likely tap into the coil signal as well - not only for cruise purposes but it's also a safety feature that keeps your cruise control from doing a runway engine. On the CCS-100 if you pull in the clutch then that will also disengage the cruise once the engine has surged a few hundred RPM - that's the anti-runaway feature kicking in.
My latest and greatest write-up on cruise control can be found here as a PDF attachment to the first post of this thread: http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=434
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Moondog
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| Good mod to do. I installed the old one on my 96 K1100RS and it works as advertised. If you are not comfortable with electronics then get some help and go slow. I got confused at first because electrons ain't my bag but I got it done right except the tie in to the throttle. Thank God for a kill switch. My fault not the cruise control. |
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drikko
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There's threads here on putting those in, including mine. Mind you mine has stopped working now which is a bit annoying. But while it was going it was awesome!
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