K11 Owners Group

ThomasJ2352 · Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Location: West Sacramento, CA

I'm looking at getting a K11 but have a question regarding how prevalent pinging is, especially to those who ride in hot climates (95 to 100+) and how difficult it is to remedy. After doing a search on the forum regarding ping issues I came across a thread from 2008 that seemed to indicate it was an issue but not much on what to do about it. I have an R1150GS thats been a real bugger to get ping free.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Tom
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drikko · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject:

Mine has never pinged at all, even in extreme 100+ temps.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject:

Both of mine are from the early 90s. Neither has ping access but they do both have Pong access. Laughing

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Jim · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: ping?

I've ridden in temps well over 100 degrees F - no ping. The K computer seems to have that pretty well under control.
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drikko · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:24 am Post subject:

I should add that I had a pinging problem in my landcruiser. Changing to 95 octane petrol (from 91) was a temporary fix, but it turned out to be a very dirty air temp sensor feeding wrong info to the EFI. Not sure if the K11 has one of those.
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Mystic Red · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:55 am Post subject:

Tom, are you running premium? Had to ask, sorry.
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ThomasJ2352 · Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Location: West Sacramento, CA

Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:59 am Post subject:

If you're running 91 then gas isn't the issue.

If you have a timing light available you might want to pull the cover off of the Hall Effect Sensor to check the timing but even just pulling that off and eyeballing it should give you an idea if the timing is properly set. Looking at the HES from the front, the little notch on the right side should be lined up with the notch on the place where it mounts.

Or it might be a bad throttle position sensor.

It's not normal for Ks to ping, even on regular gas. This, of course, is why your search turned up little.

Since you're a buyer, use the ping to talk the price down - but only if you're willing to put a little work and maybe a few dollars into getting it running right.
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86 custom K100
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Mystic Red · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject:

Having reread your post I am confused. Are you asking if pinging is a problem in the K11s or how to get rid of pinging in a K11? If you are asking if they ping I think Duck answered that question for you. Yours is the first post that I can remember regarding pinging.
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ThomasJ2352 · Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Location: West Sacramento, CA

I guess my question is, having never owned a K11, when properly tuned are they prone to pinging under any circumstances (very hot temps...rode with my daughter in 100+ yesterday). I was informed by my local BMW dealer tech that my current bike, R1150GS, is indeed prone to pinging and the only sure fire way to rid completely the pinging problems of the 1150 boxer is to go with an after market device that richens and/or adjusts timing. I'm looking at either the K11 or K12 and if one is prone to pinging or not...that would be helpful in being a discriminator. From what Duck said, and others who chimed in, it doesn't seem as though its a common issue with the K11's
Thanks,
Tom
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:17 pm Post subject:

Correct, K's don't ping.

That'll learn ya to ride them funny R thangs with two motors. Laughing

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86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
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91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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ThomasJ2352 · Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Location: West Sacramento, CA

Thanks for the helpful info...when you say "K's don't ping" does that mean both K11's and K12's? Hence, it's not a good discriminator? Pardon my ignorance as, I have never been accused of being a very high wattage bulb!
Thanks,
Tom
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Jim · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:35 am Post subject:

K bikes don't ping - period
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1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000

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Ted · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:31 am Post subject:

ThomasJ2352 · Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Location: West Sacramento, CA

Thank you gentlemen for the helpful information...I am proceeding down the path of K11 acquisition/ownership with greater confidence!
Greatly appreciated.
Tom
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2001 R1150GS

Jim · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: ping

OK - so they don't ping - but they do make a shlt load of other noises... Laughing

Most of which you can't hear - especially with a Remus or Staintune...
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1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000

"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed."

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:11 am Post subject:

If you lug them too much, the sound can resemble "ping-ing".

Keep the rev's up higher, not a problem.
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Rafal · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:36 am Post subject:

Phil Marvin · Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:05 am Post subject:

Hi,
I live in El Paso, TX, elevation about 4000 ft. I have had 2 K1100LT's, one on which I put 110k miles and the other 20k (hit a deer). I traveled from Tequisquiapan, QRO, Mexico to Worcester, MA (north to south) and Phoenix, AZ to the USA East Coast (east to west). I used Mexican regular unleaded (Magna Sin), Mexican premium, US regular unleaded (85, 86 or 87 pump octane, depending on location), mid-grade (seldom) and US premium (91, 92 or 93 pump octane, depending on location). Never once did I ever hear a ping. Ever!
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