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K1100 brake bleed near Vallejo, Ca?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: K1100 brake bleed near Vallejo, Ca? Reply with quote

I will be touring down to visit friends near Vallejo around April 1st and can't finish all my service work here before leaving. No one can service the bike here for me as well. I'd like to get the brakes bled. Is there an independant shop near Vallejo or the Bay area that can do a pressure bleed on my K1100LT? I tend to avoid BMW shops.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: K1100 brake bleed near Vallejo, Ca? Reply with quote

quadrabrick wrote:
I will be touring down to visit friends near Vallejo around April 1st and can't finish all my service work here before leaving. No one can service the bike here for me as well. I'd like to get the brakes bled. Is there an independant shop near Vallejo or the Bay area that can do a pressure bleed on my K1100LT? I tend to avoid BMW shops.
Thanks, Brent


Brent, bleeding brakes is easy, esp if you have someone to pump on the handle and top off the fluid while you open and close the valve.

All you need is a peice of hose to fit over the valve and long enough to drain into an empty soda bottle.
You'll also need an open end wrench to open and close the valve.

If you have a service manual good, if not D/L one here >>> http://pdftown.com/BMW-K-1100-LT-RS-Service-Manual.html

After you look at the instructions, if you have any questions, post back here.

If need be I can call you and talk you through it.

Done it LOTS of times. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you still need an independent shop to do this for you I'd recommend Ted Porter. http://www.beemershop.com/

I've been taking my bike there for a couple of years now and am very happy with their service. He has a very solid reputation.

He's in Scotts Valley which is about 1.5hrs south of Vallejo. The ride down Hwy 17 itself will be worth the trip. Watch out for cops though.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to you both.Thanks Shoganai. I am capable of bleeding my brakes. It's just that I don't have the time and I may have got a touch of air in there when I rebuilt the master cyclinder. From what I read, It is hard to get the air out from an ABS bike without a pressure or vacuum bleeder. I may try it still. i can't remember which member passed this on, but I redid the cylinder by putting shims in the calipers, and then at the end of it all, forced the pads apart toforce fluid back into the cylinder. There was a cm of fluid in there when I finished and I have lots of brke. But the feel is a bit softer. Brent
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonu. Have you heard of Billy Peck near the SF airport? He used to work for CalSport, or someplace sounding like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quadrabrick wrote:
Thanks to you both.Thanks Shoganai. I am capable of bleeding my brakes. It's just that I don't have the time and I may have got a touch of air in there when I rebuilt the master cyclinder. From what I read, It is hard to get the air out from an ABS bike without a pressure or vacuum bleeder. I may try it still. i can't remember which member passed this on, but I redid the cylinder by putting shims in the calipers, and then at the end of it all, forced the pads apart toforce fluid back into the cylinder. There was a cm of fluid in there when I finished and I have lots of brke. But the feel is a bit softer. Brent


I have a 1993 and 1996 K1100RS, both with ABS and have had no issues with bleeding either. :shrug

Beside, having air in the system was why I bleed them.

Anyway, good luck to ya Wink I hope I find what you need.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other reason for bleeding is to flush the system each year, where there may not be any air present. I knew I could bleed for this purpose without a pressure bleeder. I didn't know it was effective for getting air out. I thought pressure or vacuum was necessary. I may try it if I can find the time. Thanks, Brent
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quadrabrick wrote:
The other reason for bleeding is to flush the system each year, where there may not be any air present. I knew I could bleed for this purpose without a pressure bleeder. I didn't know it was effective for getting air out. I thought pressure or vacuum was necessary. I may try it if I can find the time. Thanks, Brent


I look forward to Drake to chiming in on this. Smile

I'm always learning new stuff here. As for a vacuum brake flush, I know for a fact that is a MUST do on the K1200 that is also in our garage.

Otherwise one can get an ABS fault. Embarassed Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I know for sure is that my ABS, front and rear, are both faulty! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only needed to refill twice. That was on a K100RS4V which has similar brakes to a 93 K11. That was a while ago but here goes:

It depends upon where you think the air might be.

Master cylinder bore: Position the master cylinder so that the hole on top of the bore is the highest point and squeeze the lever slowly. If the cap is off squeeze it VERY SLOWLY or the fluid will squirt out. You should see some bubbles. Whatever you do, place lots of rags under the master to protect your paint job.

You might need to turn the front wheel and possibly rotate the right perch on the bars to do this. There's a 4mm(?) bolt on the back of the perch that clamps the assembly in place on the bars.

I think what I did for the line(s) to the calipers on those was to remove the calipers and fork brace and hold them as high as possible. Then push the fuild through with half applications of the front brake lever.

The key in either case is gving the air a chance to come to top and bleeding it out at the highest point.

If you do remove the calipers then put something in between the pads on both calipers to keep them apart before squeezing. Otherwise you'll have to push the pads out which can push fluid past the seal in the master cylinder if done too quickly. DAMHIK. It leaked after that for a few hundred miles but eventually cured itself which was a relief as I didn't want to have to do a rebuild.

I bleed mine every year usually but I think two years is an acceptable interval unless your bike spends a lot of time in the rain.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should change the oft used DAMHIK to IDIOT or I Did It One Time......

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drikko wrote:
Maybe we should change the oft used DAMHIK to IDIOT or I Did It One Time......

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Holy poop, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!!! Laughing

I.D.I.O.T. added to lexicon! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quadrabrick wrote:
Sonu. Have you heard of Billy Peck near the SF airport? He used to work for CalSport, or someplace sounding like that.
Brent


Sorry Brent,
Never heard of him. I do my own fluid changes & use Ted Porter for everything else.

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