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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: ktopan |
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Not sure how to say this.. much as I love my K, I'm thinking that the time has come to sell it while it's still in good running order and probably worth more than I paid for it and get something else.
Not over keen on the K12LT - bit of an elephant IMHO and so... I fear I've changed camp and gone for a pan11A.
I'm going to miss you guys a lot - not only good company but also so much knowledge and so willing to share it. Thanks for being so tolerant and thanks for giving me the confidence to have a go at stuff myself.
Of course I haven't put it up for sale yet and have a few minor jobs to do first so the fat lady hasn't quite hit her final top 'c'.
Can I come back now and again to see how you're all doing? _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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Ernie-NH Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 982 Location: Bristol, New Hampshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Steve...
Sorry to hear that you will be switching camps, BUT why not stick around with us anyway so that you'll have some great guys with which to discuss why you regret having parted with your K-bike !! Seriously though, I'm sure you'll enjoy the new ride, and all of us would like to hear about it and your travels.
In the meantime,,,, Happy New Year !!
Ernie-NH _________________ AMA,, American Deaf Bikers
Airhead Beemers Club
'11 G650gs
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Ernie and Happy New Year right back atcha! _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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Tim (Midland Section) Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 960 Location: Pinxton, Nottingham, England.
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I fear I've changed camp and gone for a pan11A. |
Sorry to hear that Steve, I for one will miss your banter. Hope your new bike runs like a watch :- A SickHonda  _________________ Regards Tim,
Grey haired riders don't get that way by pure luck
1996 Guzzi Cali3 LAPD
1972 750 Commando
G6HRN
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drmalacarne Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 762 Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Steve.
We cant be afraid to change sometimes.
The K-brick is a great machine, but there's some super bikes out there, too.
The Big Wing P1100 is a lot more complicated that the K11, specially the combined brakes and traction control. And is a lot more heavy. But is a great wheels.
And we'll not allow you to part. I'll be always part of this group.
As I said in the past:
"It's not the bike, but the people!!"
You're always welcome here in SP, and "mi casa, su casa."
Guilherme. _________________ 1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
Yes, a Hog and a Beemer can live together! |
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Steve,
You HAVE to keep contributing here. Once a K owner- you have "married" this group 'till death (long time from now) do you part. Ask OTG!! So you can sell your brick- no matter- we hope you will continue to contribute
If you abandon us WE WILL FIND YOU
Of course, I am kind-of, sort-of looking to stray myself. But this is such a great bunch of wack-os, I would miss the bunch.
BTW, do the Euro-USA translation for us, what model is the Pan11A? Is that what we call the ST1100? (Honda's sport-tourer)
Looking forward to your future input, no matter what.
John _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: |
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thanks chaps..
When I sell the K, I will of course make it a condition of sale that the new owner joins this group
the model is one of the last 11s and has ABS / TCS, so yes, it's the ST1100 but the added 'A' refers, I believe to the extra equipment.
Heated grips etc.. picking it up in a few hours so I'll be able to report back - if it makes it the 200m home!
Actually it seems to be a few pounds lighter than a k, 635 to 638 nothing in it. Owners report comparable 0mph problems as we sometimes see on here: on and off centre stand, moving them around the garage etc etc. so I should be used to it! _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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SugarHillCTD Site Admin

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 4238 Location: Now in Eastern Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Steve,
NICE bike. Jim (Saltcreek) will be envious.
Actually it is one of the bikes on my more possible list also:
Kawasaki Concours
Yamaha FJR
Honda ST
Triumph Sprint ST
less possible:
Moto Guzzi Norge (reliability?)
BMW K1300S (too far towards sport)
But I figure that you probably won't read this until late in the day- you'll most likely be out riding.
Hopefully you will send us a report- 11 vs. 1100 comparison.
John _________________ John & Cathy
'92 K100RS4V Pearl White SOLD
'04 K1200GT
IBA Several-SS1k, BBG, 50CC NYC to S.F. |
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Saltcreek Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 957 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I didn't think you could still buy a new st1100! _________________ Jim
1994 K1100LT Mystic Red, bfd, 37000 miles, sold
2009 Wilderness Systems Zephyr 155 ST
2002 Litespeed titanium |
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yes, it's absolutely brand new! Year 2000! 51k.
just got back almost 200 miles door to door, very cold indeed, very dark indeed! all in all, I'm impressed. Have to say, I'd forgotten how cossetted we are behind our electric screens - I'll need to get the taller screen, wind noise is considerable as is buffeting with the standard screen.
Very comfortable riding position, brilliant acceleration (have to say it'd leave the K standing from 60 - 90) great suspension much smoother than my K. Taking some getting used to: the Jap switch gear, the relatively skittish front end, the lower set mirrors, the very responsive cornering.
Yep; I'm likin' it  _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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mtnroads Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 281 Location: West Linn, OR
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hey nice looking Pan you got there Steve. I've owned two of them and they are great bikes - super reliable, fairly sporting for 700lbs and competent at high speeds. I also think they are still one of the better looking (and sounding) sport-touring bikes out there, and that includes the newer ST13 - ugly!
I found my K11-RS was a bit quicker in acceleration but the ST pulls like a freight train over 100 mph and has a higher, more stable top end than a K11-LT. I covered 100 miles in under an hour on two occasions on mine, once in Idaho and once in Nevada, and it was almost boring it was so smooth. But the most pleasurable aspect of both ST11's I had was the way they loaf along at 75-85 mph, instead of feeling buzzy. And 300 miles on a tank is awesome. Makes it easy to cover a lot of ground.
The only real issue I had was the non-adjustable windscreen and forward bars gave me some neck pain (same as my K-RS). You will also need earplugs for sure. Some say the Honda lacks character compared to a Euro bike, but I never did - you can decide that for yourself... Overall a great bike though - I hope you rack up many pleasurable miles on yours - she's a beauty!
Cheers,
John _________________ 2012 R1200RT Midnight Blue
95 K1100LT Graphit (sold)
01 R1100RT Black (sold) |
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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John, agreed re the screen and the loafing too!
Looking at one of these: http://clearviewshields.com/shop/product.php?id=30 _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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drmalacarne Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 762 Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful bike!!
Well choosed, Steve!
Will Andrea inherit the K?
Congrats.
Guilherme. _________________ 1994 K1100LT SE n° 0267
1998 HD Heritage Springer 95th anniversary
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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No Gui, she's too short and a bit too inexperienced.. we're looking for an oldish Deauville for her. We're 'going Jap'!!  _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers Steve....congrats on the new ride!! _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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mtnroads Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 281 Location: West Linn, OR
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my 93 with a Clearview 20" in light smoke. It had the more traditional "eyebrow" vents but worked very well for me (I'm 5'10). I found on my ST's that the "quiet zone" is very small - a matter of a couple inches where you can still see over the top but do not get the wind roar. When I got it right if I stretched up fully straight I was back in the noise zone. But once you get the right one it works well unless you're out in the Great Basin in 50 kt. quartering winds - then all bets are off and you have to power through - he he....
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95 K1100LT Graphit (sold)
01 R1100RT Black (sold) |
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Klinker Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 876 Location: SD I-90
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I am also the former owner of two STs - rode STs for twelve years in all. Liked (and unfortunately totalled) them both, but was ready for a change when I bought the KRS. Comparos between the ST and K-bikes have been thrown about on this site a number of times, although I expect they are now vaporized. In short, I like the speed and nimbleness of my RS, but appreciated the smoothness, distance capabilities and reliability of the Hondas.
| hirschhs wrote: | | ...the added 'A' refers, I believe to the extra equipment. |
Specifically, ABS.
As far as a windshield upgrade, I'll throw out another couple possibilities:
http://www.laminarlip.com/st1100.php
Laminar makes a lip that attaches to the stock screen and greatly helps with the buffeting. They also make a complete windshield replacement which I had and recommend. The Laminar screen is longer (comes further back, closer to the rider) but no taller. It looked a bit odd at first, but I quickly came to prefer its appearance to the stock - it seemed to blend with the lines of the bike more. I spoke with the Laminar owner/designer and he explained that this was his intent.
My Laminar screen was the dark smoke color, which I also came to like - it helped reduce road glare but did not impair any important sight lines. If one were to purchase the smoke version, however, I recommend the clear lip. Two layers of the smoke material DOES impair one's view.
Good luck with the Pan. Very rational decision for an irrational need.*
*A need we all seem to have...to RIDE! _________________ tlp
1994 K1100RS
Only the Reasonists. They believe in an evidence-based world, something called Rationalism. But it's a tiny group, not so influential.
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Klinker, useful and interesting info.
I have ordered a few bits and pieces (some from the US) to make the beast a little more sophisticated!
I'll update on this thread as things arrive and get fitted.
How can riding be irrational? God gave us two feet, one for each side of a bike and therefore the ability to brake and change gear.
 _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Happy New Year to all at K11OG! It's 10pm here and the Jack D is going down a treat! Have a good one! _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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Ernie-NH Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 982 Location: Bristol, New Hampshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hey UK....
....and a very Happy New Year to all of you as well ! Keep the JD flowing, the Kentucky economy needs all the help it can get !
best regards.........// Ernie-NH ( New Year in 6 hrs 55 minutes ! ) _________________ AMA,, American Deaf Bikers
Airhead Beemers Club
'11 G650gs
'95 K1100LT
'76 R100/7 |
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