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SugarHillCTD
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoganai wrote:
This cannot be a good thing Shocked

Crying or Very sad


That does NOT look good. Those tubes have only been on since 2006? Were they new?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be just a loose bolt in the bottom.

Next time when someone tells you to drop your forks don't take it literally. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SugarHillCTD wrote:

That does NOT look good. Those tubes have only been on since 2006? Were they new?


They were professionally turned and rebuilt and shipped to me in Alaska.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
Could be just a loose bolt in the bottom.

Next time when someone tells you to drop your forks don't take it literally. Laughing




I've become convinced that the reason this bike blows so many fork seals is that the springs are just plain sprung.

That would explain the 'bottoming out' issue even with new seals and proper oil levels.

The Blue Streak has a very firm front suspension, not mushy like the S.W.

I'm going to put the front wheel back on, and wait until Steve gets home so he can help me get it off the lift. Then I'll pull the wheel off, and attempt to rebuild them with brand new springs. That way I won't tie up the lift if it takes me awhile to finish the job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you get your forks turned? What was wrong with them? (I have some lightly pitted ones in the basement.)

Most importantly: HOW MUCH DID IT COST?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
Where did you get your forks turned? What was wrong with them? (I have some lightly pitted ones in the basement.)

Most importantly: HOW MUCH DID IT COST?


I'll have to contact the fellow who arranged all that for me and get back to you.

The way it went down was like this: I posted the forks had hemorraged all their oil out and were sloppy to handle as well as going into tank slappers several times a day at speed, Phil and Steve took care of having the rebuilt forks arriving in Anchorage Alaska a few days before I did.

This was just to keep my brakes a little dry...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoganai wrote:

This was just to keep my brakes a little dry...



NICE GAITERS! Rolling Eyes

Sorry, shouldn't hit a bike when it's down
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SugarHillCTD wrote:


NICE GAITERS! Rolling Eyes

Sorry, shouldn't hit a bike when it's down


They aren't gaiters, they're sponges silly
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duck, I was mistaken, the forks sent to me in Alaska were not turned. They were just rebuilt.

Well, getting that busted fork back up and the wheel back on was a bitch. Evil or Very Mad As I pushed it back up, oil oozed all over the place.



I had a cute little visitor that laughed his cute little tiny ass off at my antics.



Well, I found out the the BMW Special tools I wanted are no longer available.



Yes, know this job can be done without the cool tools, but I would liked to have had them to use.

I read Ted's string/screwdriver technique and have it printed out for later use. I also talked with Anton who worked on Jim's forks. Steve and I will work on them together because he's really good at this stuff.

Off to find a block of wood to support the bike so I can remove the forks, buy a new bra and get a hair cut.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets worse

So, this morning I went looking for some wood to block the bike up and found this at a construction site in the trash pile.



And did this...







The bag supports the wheel so there's little resistance when pulling the axel out. Not to mention a ready supply of oil dry. Very Happy



Now this is where it gets all sideways

So I remove the drain plug from the left fork w/o difficulty, and what's left of the oil drains out well.



Then I try to remove the right drain plug and it spins freely but would come on out. I thinking, not always a good thing FWIW, but there I was thinking holy shit, did it strip the threads! Crying or Very sad

No, I thought, it felt right, but still no matter what I tried, it would not fall on out.



I ask Steve to come take a look.

Back the to left fork, it basically fell / came apart in our hands. So much so that the dogs, and all the spring guts fell out.

This was the damage on the inside.





We played around and installed the new spring set and with the fork out of the bike it was not too difficult to re-install the dogs and put the whole thing back together including the cap.

We were like this That wasn't so hard, and far less hard than I imagined it being.

I start to mess this the right fork while Steve is testing / compressing the one we just assembled and I hear him saying "uh oh" Confused

He said, "I think the dogs fell out".

Sure enough, they did. Evil or Very Mad

Ok, on with the right fork. When I pulled it out of the bike it felt sloppy.



This is how we compressed the spring.
Steve is BRILLIANT with this stuff Cool



This is what we found inside. First, NO OIL!! None! And no evidence of leakage under the gaiter. WTF!





Ok, I take it back a little, here is all the oil we found.










And this is way the dogs fell out in the first place.



The one pictured on the left didn't have the shim that was in place on the right fork.


So to recap, I had TWO completely different failures for two completely different reasons.

The good news, the drain plug was just stuck because the o-ring was holding it in.

And FWIW, broom handles are great for removing the stuck sleeve and spring guide out of the right fork.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwen - your forks are a mess! No wonder you had trouble keeping that bike on the road!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Gwen - your forks are a mess! No wonder you had trouble keeping that bike on the road!


Naw, these are the SW forks.

I had trouble keeping the blue bike on the road because I can't pick good lines anymore. I can't see through the turns like I used to. I'm almost sure I'm turning in too early.

Not a bike issue, it's a rider that's lost skills and nerve issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked HOLEEEEE.............
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoganai wrote:
Jim wrote:
Gwen - your forks are a mess! No wonder you had trouble keeping that bike on the road!


Naw, these are the SW forks.

I had trouble keeping the blue bike on the road because I can't pick good lines anymore. I can't see through the turns like I used to. I'm almost sure I'm turning in too early.

Not a bike issue, it's a rider that's lost skills and nerve issue.


Uh, Gwen - I was talking about the SW!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[foxworthy]You just can't have nice things...[/foxworthy]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drif10 wrote:
[foxworthy]You just can't have nice things...[/foxworthy]


Question Question Question Question Question Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Drif10 wrote:
[foxworthy]You just can't have nice things...[/foxworthy]


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Laughing :wave sweetie.


Jim, meet Drif10, my dear, dear friend and adopted 'older brother' from the Great White North. We've riden together, he rode down from Canuckastan just to help Steve and I move, and once when my back was still healing in the brace, he rode to VA, loaded his bike on a trailer, and towed it just so he could DRIVE me to a ADVrider event in north western GA.

There is nothing Steve and I wouldn't do for him. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speak for your self dear...

Good thing the Shop Whore's are in the garage, now that the KTM is fixed, I need to have something to do. Laughing Twisted Evil Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steverino wrote:
Speak for your self dear...


Well, you let him ride bitch with you on the K12RS Very Happy
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K12R... Very Happy

We were hot...
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