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So an 85 K100 rt vs K11rt..pretty much on par

 
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merlin geikie
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: So an 85 K100 rt vs K11rt..pretty much on par Reply with quote

Gee its nice to know you friendly folks are out there Very Happy

So it looks like an 85 k100 rt is in general terms as good as a k11 rt for handlin and reliability but better for spares coz theres lots of em bein parted out.

And that in any case, gettin a low mileage, well looked after and serviced k100 or k11 bike is wot to go for...pretty much regardless of other factors.

And that mono lever set up may be slightly more lumpy but well maintained..last plenty longer than the paralever...but there isnt really much difference to the average tourin rider.

Have i got it right or what else should i know?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own both an 85 K100RT and a 97 K1100LT. Still ride the LT a lot along with a 07 FJR. Owned the RT for 16 yrs and should sell it. For me, I would take the K1100LT hands down. It has more ponies with another 100cc's and 16 valves. I like the ABS II. My understanding ABS I brains are not available anymore. I hate the key locks on the 85 saddle bags, especially at night. Love the LT electric windshield along with the seat. In hot weather, it can be a warm ride.

I purchased the LT used with 23,000, put another 60+k on, and it has been a good bike. I have had to install 2 fuel gage sending units. I also had the cooling fan walk off the electric motor shaft and take out the radiator. Talked to a fella at Daytona recently that had the same happen. Did my own work, but still cost over $500. I pulled the final drive and transmission at 45,000 miles to check the splines and they were fine. Used Honda spline lub. About time to do it again. Plan to replace the rear main seal while the trans is out just because.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The paralevre will outlast the monolever and gives a better ride.

The K11 brakes are MUCH better.

The lelectric windscreen is generally better but the ealier Rt/LT fixed windscreens are better for staying dry in the rain.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
The paralevre will outlast the monolever
What makes you say that?

Frank
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't think of a single parlever on a 4 valve K that I've ever heard of failing. Although drive shafts will have U-joints go bad.

In general, at least on the 86 and later 2V K bikes, the splines on the final drive and drive shaft will wear out at somewhere near 100k. (I actually consider that more of a wear item though vs. a failure.)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the splines on the aft end of the driveshaft on the mono's will wear out. But, until recently, I had the original final drive on my K. The input splines were worn, but they had been through three driveshafts.

It's curious that LT's have had final drive problems due to overloading, I suspect. Also, R-RT's have had their share of problems. With the K11/12 being a large, heavy, powerful bike, I would expect more failures than have been the norm. It is the same design of all of them.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rs and later BMWs certainly have had their share of FD deaths but they seem pretty darned reliable on the K1, K100RS4v and K1100s.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank - from everything I've read, the final drive failures are due to final drives not being set up right at the factory. How can you overload a final drive?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have owned both, traded up from a k100 to a K11Lt, now on my third K11. Both good in their day, but the K11 days are 10 years of research & testing newer. The ABS2 (1995 onwards) K11 is IMNSHO the best, but then i'm biased, check my sig.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Frank - from everything I've read, the final drive failures are due to final drives not being set up right at the factory. How can you overload a final drive?
I don't know if the K and R final drives are EXACTLY the same, but they sure look alike to me. The same people probably set them up at the factory, too.

Overloading can happen when you exceed the GVWR. The bearings in the final drive are what support the aft end of the bike, when you think about it. LT riders, two up and loaded can get there.

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