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classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

We recently replaced on an '93 K11 LT; Frt-110/80ZR18, Rear- 150/70ZR17. Rear tire fits great! Handles Superb!

We already enjoyed the Pilot Road 2's on our R1100 RT.
Both ride the delightful open roads here, along the rivers and through the mountains significantly improved.

Has anyone one put thousands of miles on this tire yet?
Any comments?

Thanks, RJ
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Mystic Red · Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

I have a pilot on the front but run a macadam on the rear as they don't make a fitment for LT rear. Second front on now and I got 14,000 out of the first. Happy motoring. Very Happy

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Technician · Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject:

How is the clearance for the swingarm etc at the rear. I run Macadam 50 at the moment with a 140/80 on the rear and have been looking to try some of the new Michelins for the last year or so but the Macadam is the only model available/recommended for tye K11 LT so tyre shops are reluctant to order them in.
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classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

The rear fit was the research, allright!
The manufacture's fit guide does not include rear for these years.

Same clearances as previous tires.

These replaced the Dunlop 205s Frt-110-80-18, Rear- 140-80-17. Surprisingly the same side clearance! Great tire!

The other LT has the Mac. We will change these to P/R 2s, when needed.The Pilot Road 2s are new. THe Pilot Road 1s, first release, had various problems, I am told.

If you are in the neighborhood, stop in for a tire inspection.

Thanks, RJ
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Klinker · Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Pilot Road 2 Tires

classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

I was out on the LT's today! The with and without P/R 2s. The P/R 2s are far superior than the LT without.
Of course, most noticably in the front steering.
Even in the staight stretches I find myself enjoyably weaving in my own lane!
RJ
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Mystic Red · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

RJ, what colors are your bikes? I don't think I've ever seen another LT around here (except when Spokane had the rally) so I'll keep my eyes peeled for you. Cool

We do accept pictures on the site from time to time! Very Happy

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classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

Hey Mistic Red,
I believe I have caught sight of you out on the highway before. We have a Caribic Blue (Metallic)(183)and Pine Green (Metallic)(683) KLT's, 3 K100RT's, 1 R1100RT.
I have spent many years at Twin Lakes, years ago.
Give me a call and we can arrange to meet!
Thanks, RJ
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mnb · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:45 am Post subject:

I would have some concerns running a Pilot Road 2 size 150/17 on the LT.

First, the required Rim width is wider than the 3.00 rim size on the LT.

Second, the diameter is 1/2" smaller. I'm not sure if this would throw your speedo off or if it would just make you quicker off the line with a lower top speed...
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classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

Tire Techs checked it out and approved!
We have a second LT being refitted w/ PR2s today.
Sure handles and rides great.
Keep me posted on your further investigation and we will pass on the info!
Thanks, RJ
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old guy old bike · Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:55 am Post subject:

RJ
How about an update on the Pilot Road 2's.

I have a set on order then I heard there may be an issue with the radial bead not fitting the stock rim on the LT. This came from a BMW tech. I didn't know there is a difference in a bias ply vs. radial rim. I called the Michelin Man to get his take on it. Of course he was clueless.

From reading your post it sounds like you just mounted them up on the stock rims. Is that true?

mnb
From what I have seen on my LT and read, most speedo's are off by around 10% anyway. Agreed this is a step in the wrong direction but I don't think it is that big as deal. I would speculate that the slightly narrower rim would hold the sidewalls in and cause the face of the tire to grow some. It may all work out in the end.

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classicmotorcyclerides · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Spokane, Washington

Same stock wheels. Biased tires were on both LT'S previously!
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K11Martin · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:59 am Post subject:

The Pilot R2s are not rated to cope with the weight of a loaded LT, and under load/heavy riding, they will touch the swingarm..be warned!

If the bike could have safely coped with a 150 section tyre, the handbook would have said so, and this is especially important when you consider the way that radial sidewalls flex more than than crossply or bias-belted tyres, particularly during hard cornering.

Riding with an R2 on the front and a Macadam on the rear is potentially dangerous. Dunno about the states but in the UK a radial on the front front must be accompanied by a radial on the rear by law.

Radial rear with anything on the front is OK, but not the other way round.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject:

I was going to put Bridgestones on the LT with an RS rear wheel. However, I've been doing quite a bit of surfing and it looks like the Pilot Road 2s are some of the best tires out there for a good combination of performance and mileage.

Off to SW Moto Tires I go... Very Happy

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old guy old bike · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject:

Finally have the Pilot Road 2's mounted and on the bike. Took them out for a little 30 mile spin to scuff them up some. The difference is remarkable. I imagine most of it is due to new tires vs old but never the less it sure handles nice and the ride is much smoother.

No issues yet with the rear rubbing on the swingarm. It has basically the same amount of clearance as before. We will just have to see if sidewall flex is an issue for an old guy that rides like one.

I put 41PSI in the front and 43PSI in the rear just because that is what I always ran in the bias ply tires. Anyone have input in these pressures.
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rydor · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject:

old guy old bike · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject:

Maybe I should back them down a pound or two and see how they work. This is my first go 'round with radials so I don't know what to expect.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject:

What's the max pressure printed on the sidewall?
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